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Re: Visa help.
Originally Posted by babu1
(Post 10364729)
"As I understand it, if you apply by POST & send to Hayes, BUT have 'selected' the mission (during the online process) which your geographical location comes under the jurisdiction of, your application will not be processed."
Thanks, that's the way I've interpreted it, so have made an online application with London as my Mission Post and will post all documents to Hayes on Monday. The website crashed at the crucial point of payment, just before the Verisign Visa should have popped up and continually went to Connection Error (even though there wasn't one on the browser), but will have another go later today. Here's hoping they can turn the application round without complication, and Diwali holiday so one lost working day. I`ve only been back in Goa just over a week and I`ve heard of two more people who have previously had a 1 yr and a 5 yr X and they`ve been given Tourist visa s like myself. |
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I do seem to recall that Edinburgh is ine of the consulates where they do actually let you through the door nowadays - might be worth a visit re, X visas (after all you don't want to apply for a visa you're not entitled to <g>).
AndyD 8-)₹ |
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Originally Posted by babu1
(Post 10363922)
Am about to make postal application for visa, usually send it to Edinburgh and they post it back.
Typically, vfs website is giving obscure information. 1) It says : "All applicants submitting visa application via post must select “UK-LONDON†as “INDIAN MISSION†while filling the online form. Application forms filled for other Indian Missions (Birmingham/Edinburgh) in the UK WILL NOT be accepted at the postal application centre for Indian visa. All the supporting documents/letters should be addressed to the High Commission of India, London." Does this mean the centralised postal application centre at Hayes will NOT process applications where your jurisdiction is Edinburgh, even though ALL postal applications are to be sent to Hayes? On the address list for jurisdiction of Consulates it has this warning for applications through Glasgow : APPLICANTS ARE ADVISED NOT TO SEND ANY POSTAL APPLICATIONS TO THIS CENTER. VFS UK LTD. WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY LIABILITIES FOR LOSS OF DOCUMENTS IF SENT BY POST. ALL POSTAL APPLICATIONS SHOULD BE SENT TO INDIA VISA APPLICATION CENTER IN HAYES. It does not have this warning at the Edinburgh Consulate address. Confused. |
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Originally Posted by chrisjolly
(Post 10366139)
We always use a visa application service based in London who do everything for us..,we send the forms and passports and they come back with the visa in a few days. We have to pay for the service but it takes away all the concern that you are having. They are Prince Visa.http://www.princevisa.com/mainvisain...b&d=551&from=o
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Originally Posted by msj5
(Post 10366231)
Their web site doesn`t give you the option of an Entry(X) visa. Only Tourist or Business.
Saadia Anwar <[email protected]> She may be able to help and advise. She even checked the letters I used for our Business Visas before we sent them off. |
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Hello to everyone on British expats and very sorry if i have posted this in the wrong place!
Just a question to ask please: We have come to Goa for the duration of our visa ( 6 months )...but we were hoping to go to Thailand for 1 month to meet some friends, we didn't see any problem with this as we have "double entry" visa'a....but now we have been told that if we do leave India we must stay out and leave a gap of 2 months! ...which is more than we wanted to stay...it seems the only way we can do this is if we get permission..but who/where do we ask?..and are we likely to be allowed? Thankyou in advance. |
Re: Visa help.
Originally Posted by yabadabadoo2012
(Post 10369278)
Hello to everyone on British expats and very sorry if i have posted this in the wrong place!
Just a question to ask please: We have come to Goa for the duration of our visa ( 6 months )...but we were hoping to go to Thailand for 1 month to meet some friends, we didn't see any problem with this as we have "double entry" visa'a....but now we have been told that if we do leave India we must stay out and leave a gap of 2 months! ...which is more than we wanted to stay...it seems the only way we can do this is if we get permission..but who/where do we ask?..and are we likely to be allowed? Thankyou in advance. Double Entry Tourist Visa Applicant(s) on a Double Entry Tourist Visa can travel to a third country from India during their holidays and can re-enter into India without a GAP of Two Months to continue with their holidays. In such cases the visa will be issued with a permission to re-enter into India from the specific country (city), which allows the applicants to re-enter into India without a GAP of Two Months from their last exit date. Applicant(s) are required to provide a tentative itinerary in order to apply for Double Entry Tourist Visa. Re-entry on a double entry visa is allowed only from the neighbouring countries*. i.e Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Thailand etc. If not, then you need to do the following(again from the VFS website): In case of requirement to visit India within 2 months, permission should be sought from the High Commission of India, London or the Indian Consulates at Birmingham and Edinburgh directly without going through the outsourcing agency VFS Global (UK) Ltd. Applicant may fill up application from, one photograph, application stating reason for re-entry within two months with supporting documents/travel itinerary etc and a fee of £9/-(Inclusive of £2.00 Consular Charges). Where permission is accorded in such cases, registration with the local FRRO/FRO would be required within 14 days of arrival in India. Request form can be downloaded through the website: As described here: http://in.vfsglobal.co.uk/news.html Regards H. |
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Has anyone been to Nepal for the 180 day visa run? If so how did you get there from Goa, how long is it worth staying and where did you stay? Thanks:thumbup:
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Oh thankyou Hemingway for all the trouble you went to,to answer our question. I must admit i am a bit lost now! but looking at our visa which we actually got in Thailand because we were there before we came to Goa it says it is a" T visa..Double entries"..it is valid for 6 months..also which i didn't notice before is a stamp in small print which reads "Tourist visa Non-Extentdable gap of 2 months mandatory between 2 visits" !...so maybe not looking good : ( any advice appreciated.
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Re: Visa help.
Originally Posted by yabadabadoo2012
(Post 10370175)
Oh thankyou Hemingway for all the trouble you went to,to answer our question. I must admit i am a bit lost now! but looking at our visa which we actually got in Thailand because we were there before we came to Goa it says it is a" T visa..Double entries"..it is valid for 6 months..also which i didn't notice before is a stamp in small print which reads "Tourist visa Non-Extentdable gap of 2 months mandatory between 2 visits" !...so maybe not looking good : ( any advice appreciated.
N.B. total elapsed time between # and ## is 180 days or the validity of your visa whichever is the less. (Actually this is exactly what hemingway said in part 1 of his answer - ignore part 2 unless you find yourself needing to enter India for a real emergency reason). The small print is pre-printed and is over-ridden by the double entry (do you also have an stamp - something like 're-entry permitted from Thailand'?) AndyD 8-)₹ |
Re: Visa help.
Originally Posted by yabadabadoo2012
(Post 10370175)
Oh thankyou Hemingway for all the trouble you went to,to answer our question. I must admit i am a bit lost now! but looking at our visa which we actually got in Thailand because we were there before we came to Goa it says it is a" T visa..Double entries"..it is valid for 6 months..also which i didn't notice before is a stamp in small print which reads "Tourist visa Non-Extentdable gap of 2 months mandatory between 2 visits" !...so maybe not looking good : ( any advice appreciated.
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Re: Visa help.
Originally Posted by a_f_d
(Post 10370248)
Your visa is fine - it's good for two entries to India (!) e.g # Thailand > India > Thailand > India > anywhere ##
N.B. total elapsed time between # and ## is 180 days or the validity of your visa whichever is the less. (Actually this is exactly what hemingway said in part 1 of his answer - ignore part 2 unless you find yourself needing to enter India for a real emergency reason). The small print is pre-printed and is over-ridden by the double entry (do you also have an stamp - something like 're-entry permitted from Thailand'?) AndyD 8-)₹ Must admit i am a bit confused..there is no "re-entry to Thailand" stamp on the visa..and in very small print it says there is a mandatory gap of 2 months between 2 visits...:confused: |
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Originally Posted by noni
(Post 10370290)
Hi, yabadabadoo welcome to BE - am glad your have received such informative infomation from our members. Hope you enjoy your time with us and join in other threads.
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Re: Visa help.
Originally Posted by yabadabadoo2012
(Post 10371175)
Hi a_f_d and thankyou for your help.
Must admit i am a bit confused..there is no "re-entry to Thailand" stamp on the visa..and in very small print it says there is a mandatory gap of 2 months between 2 visits...:confused: In such cases the visa will be issued with a permission to re-enter into India from the specific country (city), which allows the applicants to re-enter into India without a GAP of Two Months from their last exit date. you may have a problem. As a_f_d states, I'd expect the visa to have been 'rubber stamped' (in GREEN) "re-entry WITHIN 2 months permitted from Thailand" - it may even quote a specific city in Thailand that they 'expect' you to be arriving from. Before you leave Goa for Thailand, I would be contacting VFS ([email protected] - this email address works but might be useless to you as you got your visa in Thailand & not the UK) to get the situation clarified, following which they might refer you to Panjim or Delhi - others may chime in to advise you far better than I on this. Good luck. H. |
Re: Visa help.
Originally Posted by hemingway
(Post 10371217)
I think, unless your visa IS "endorsed" as the VFS website indicates:
In such cases the visa will be issued with a permission to re-enter into India from the specific country (city), which allows the applicants to re-enter into India without a GAP of Two Months from their last exit date. you may have a problem. As a_f_d states, I'd expect the visa to have been 'rubber stamped' (in GREEN) "re-entry WITHIN 2 months permitted from Thailand" - it may even quote a specific city in Thailand that they 'expect' you to be arriving from. Before you leave Goa for Thailand, I would be contacting VFS W([email protected] - this email address works but might be useless to you as you got your visa in Thailand & not the UK) to get the situation clarified, following which they might refer you to Panjim or Delhi - others may chime in to advise you far better than I on this. Good luck. H. |
Re: Visa help.
Originally Posted by yabadabadoo2012
(Post 10371175)
in very small print it says there is a mandatory gap of 2 months between 2 visits...:confused:
You have a dual-entry visa - since it is not endorsed for a particular country you should be OK re-entering from any neighbouring country - just as you would be on a multi-entry visa. AndyD |
Re: Visa help.
Originally Posted by a_f_d
(Post 10372129)
re-read my previous post.
You have a dual-entry visa - since it is not endorsed for a particular country you should be OK re-entering from any neighbouring country - just as you would be on a multi-entry visa. AndyD This is the reply i had from the Bangkok office. Dear Sir/Madame, For tourist visa 6 months double entry that mean you can go to India 2 times but 1 time and 2 times you have to wait 2 months gap before you go back to India again |
Re: Visa help.
Originally Posted by yabadabadoo2012
(Post 10372212)
Hi Andy,
This is the reply i had from the Bangkok office. Dear Sir/Madame, For tourist visa 6 months double entry that mean you can go to India 2 times but 1 time and 2 times you have to wait 2 months gap before you go back to India again The only real arbiters in this are Immigration and they are likely to let you in twice on a double entry visa - they may not, they may not let you in at all but there's nothing you can do about that so stop anguishing and just go. Ask the Immigration officer on the way in - in my experience they are now fully au fait with the rules. AndyD 8-)₹ |
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Originally Posted by a_f_d
(Post 10372458)
I think they are trying to say that after you have been to India twice you have to wait two months before going again (imho you also need another visa then).
The only real arbiters in this are Immigration and they are likely to let you in twice on a double entry visa - they may not, they may not let you in at all but there's nothing you can do about that so stop anguishing and just go. Ask the Immigration officer on the way in - in my experience they are now fully au fait with the rules. AndyD 8-)₹ I have been looking for an email address for the consulate in Dehli but can't seem to find it anywhere..i though email them and see what they say:confused: |
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Originally Posted by yabadabadoo2012
(Post 10372798)
So you think ask the immigration officer on the way back in?..or do you think i should ask on the way out?
I have been looking for an email address for the consulate in Dehli but can't seem to find it anywhere..i though email them and see what they say:confused: AndyD |
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Originally Posted by a_f_d
(Post 10372867)
just chill - they won't reply - just travel and enjoy!!!!!
AndyD |
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Hi, i found this on the Indian immigration website!!
Q.1: Whether the gap of two months between two visits would apply to all Tourist Visa holders ? Ans. : The gap of two months between two visits would apply to all Tourist Visa holders. Q.2 : Whether the gap of two months between two visits would apply irrespective of the duration of stay in India during the previous visit ? Ans.: The intention behind the stipulation of a gap of two months between two visits on a Tourist Visa is to curb the abuse/misuse of the Tourist Visa. With a view to ensure that the genuine tourists are not affected by the recent guidelines, the following clarifications are furnished: (I) Foreigners holding Tourist Visas, who after initial entry into India plan to visit another country largely on account of neighbourhood tourism related travel and re-enter India before finally exiting, may be permitted two or three entries, as the case may be (need based), by the Indian Missions/Posts subject to their submission of a detailed itinerary and supporting documentation (ticket bookings). If they are already outside of their country of origin, they can also get such an endorsement from the nearest Indian Mission/Post. (II) The Immigration authorities in all the Immigration Check Posts may also allow such foreign nationals on Tourist Visas arriving in India without the specific authorization from the Indian Missions/Posts to make two or three entries into the country (need based) subject to production of an itinerary and supporting documentation (ticket bookings). (III) The total period of stay in the country counted from the date of first entry into the country shall not exceed the stay stipulation period of 180 days or 90 days, as the case may be. |
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Originally Posted by yabadabadoo2012
(Post 10373977)
Hi, i found this on the Indian immigration website!!
.... Note that the 'endorsement' mentioned in the final sentence of #I (let's call it #Ib) is not clearly distinguished from the 'special permission' in #V and anyone applying for a type Ib endorsement is likely to be refused because they do not meet the conditions for type V. The best advice therefore seems to be to use the discretion route on a multi-entry visa - #II. Implementation of #Ia took some time to 'clarify' but double and triple-entry visas now seem to be generally issued in these cases. AndyD 8-)₹ |
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Originally Posted by a_f_d
(Post 10374100)
mea culpa - I am so used to referring people to the official source that I just assumed I had done so in this case.
Note that the 'endorsement' mentioned in the final sentence of #I (let's call it #Ib) is not clearly distinguished from the 'special permission' in #V and anyone applying for a type Ib endorsement is likely to be refused because they do not meet the conditions for type V. The best advice therefore seems to be to use the discretion route on a multi-entry visa - #II. Implementation of #Ia took some time to 'clarify' but double and triple-entry visas now seem to be generally issued in these cases. AndyD 8-)₹ |
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Originally Posted by k800mer
(Post 10374219)
some friends of ours were not let back in from Thailand until they had done the two months out because they had a multiple entry visa, they were told they should have had a double entry visa.
AndyD 8-)₹ |
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Originally Posted by a_f_d
(Post 10374525)
that's the first case I heard of: were they stopped from boarding or turned back on arrival? - if so which airport?
AndyD 8-)₹ |
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Originally Posted by k800mer
(Post 10375152)
They were stopped from boarding in Thailand but I do not know the airport, I am afraid I just commiserated with them when they finally arrived back but did not ask for the details but they did say about their visas being multiple entry but they had been told they would have been ok with double entry visas.
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Originally Posted by yabadabadoo2012
(Post 10375260)
It is pretty normal for Bangkok airport to enquire if you have the correct visa ect to where you are travelling...so all looks good now!..you think just go on the journey Andy anyway and as its double entry we could return in 2 weeks/ 1 month whatever?.(within the visa validity )
AndyD 8-)₹ |
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Went to the Wilton Road office today to hand over the passports and documents for our visas and I thought it might be a good idea to remind people that to get a childs visa you need, in addition to the completed application and declaration and the two 2"x 2" photographs, a photocopy of each of the parents passports. A letter from each parent to confirm that they agree to the issuing of the childs visa and a copy of the childs birth certificate showing both parents names. I forgot about the copies of the parents passports and did not have one of the passports with me but I was able to get a copy faxed to me at the VFS office.
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I am in UK about to renew business visa which apparently they are only giving for 1 year? Seems to me that a tourist visa is more convenient and flexible now that 2 month restriction has been lifted? Have to go out 180 days anyway on business visa and it comes up at the same time of year. Feedback appreciated!
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Originally Posted by Jessica
(Post 10446578)
I am in UK about to renew business visa which apparently they are only giving for 1 year? Seems to me that a tourist visa is more convenient and flexible now that 2 month restriction has been lifted? Have to go out 180 days anyway on business visa and it comes up at the same time of year. Feedback appreciated!
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Originally Posted by k800mer
(Post 10446597)
You can not work in India on a tourist visa so if you plan to do any work you would do better to stick with your business visa even though it costs more.
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Thanks. I am not working so Employment Visa not relevant.
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A Tourist visa is for people who do not have a business or property in India |
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Originally Posted by chrisjolly
(Post 10446611)
You cannot work with a Business Visa you need an Employment Visa. Now they have cancelled the two month restriction then a one year tourist visa will be fine but like a Business Visa you still need to leave after 180 days. A BV is for people who are making business connections whilst in India not for those who work as you will need to be tax registered.
No intention to work, or ever do business..................... Just a scam that f**ked it up for those who wanted to live there, rather than make a fast buck on property speculation/have a tweeker holiday home based on lies. And now they pretend they believe all the cr@p they were told? Better clear the chimney for Father Christmas then? Thank you all and Happy Christmas. xxx . |
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Originally Posted by Jessica
(Post 10446578)
I am in UK about to renew business visa which apparently they are only giving for 1 year?
2 year business visas are available & do not accept VFS Global telling you that you cannot apply for a 2 year business visa. Have to go out 180 days anyway on business visa and it comes up at the same time of year. if you receive a 1 or 2 year business visa, you DO NOT have to leave India after 180 days, AS LONG AS you register at the FRO/FRRO within 14 DAYS of arrival in India. Page 5 on this MHA link: http://mha.nic.in/foreigDiv/pdfs/FRR...on223.6.11.pdf details the requirements for registration. Extension of a business visa seems to be a more onerous process - the requirements are detailed further down in the above PDF link. Feedback appreciated! H. |
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H.. all business visa's now have the stipulation that you cannot stay over 180days,that's why we have just returned from Thailand.
John |
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Originally Posted by jcbrum
(Post 10452036)
H.. all business visa's now have the stipulation that you cannot stay over 180days,that's why we have just returned from Thailand.
John That's very interesting: friends recently renewed their business visas - their previous few business visas have all had a stamp bearing the words "registration only required if stay exceeds 180 days" which was fine as they never quite stayed for 180 days. The newly issued visa didn't have any "green" stamp at all - HOWEVER, in the 'standard' text on the visa, it stated "registration required within 14 days of arrival in India for visas valid for more than 180 days. The newly issued visas are valid for more than 180 days but the intended length of stay was significantly less than 180 days & our friends were actually concerned that they could be refused permission to leave India if they hadn't registered within 14 days of arrival. Searching the MHA & Immigration India websites indicated that in the case of BUSINESS & ENTRY visas, registration within 14 days of arrival was only required IF the intended length of stay is in excess of 180 days. Do you know if it is the case that the FRRO/FRO in Panjim would actually REFUSE to allow them to register meaning that they were not allowed to stay for more than 180 days even though the visa is valid for more than 180 days? Regards H. |
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The FRO in Panjim may allow them to register,but i do not know of anyone who has tried because of all the documents required ,i think it's about 32 in total.
Our one year business visa was issued in June and it says that the stay must not exceed 180 days and i'm pretty sure it applies to all business visas that are now granted. John |
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