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johnny five Dec 27th 2012 10:04 pm

Re: Visa help.
 
From VFS website..............


Business Visa
A Business Visa is granted to those who do business in India such as making sales or establishing contacts on behalf of a company outside of India. Business visas may be valid for 6 months to one year or more with single or multiple entries. Irrespective of the duration of validity of visa, on each visit maximum period of stay in India is limited to 6 months (180 days) only. Please note the validity of the visa is effective from the date of issue. Those who are applying to work for an Indian company should apply for an Employment Visa. Please click here for more information.
Maybe that is clear enough?


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chrisjolly Dec 27th 2012 10:33 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 10452799)
From VFS website..............



Maybe that is clear enough?


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It is very clear on the website but the problem is that there is a difference in what is issued in London HC and Birmingham HC..in the London one it clearly says 180 days but sometimes in the Birmingham issued BV it does not. This happened last year when we applied in London and our friend applied exactly at the same time. He had to register with the FRO in Panjim within 14 days and we did not.

Bipat Dec 27th 2012 11:01 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by chrisjolly (Post 10452829)
It is very clear on the website but the problem is that there is a difference in what is issued in London HC and Birmingham HC..in the London one it clearly says 180 days but sometimes in the Birmingham issued BV it does not. This happened last year when we applied in London and our friend applied exactly at the same time. He had to register with the FRO in Panjim within 14 days and we did not.

The same problem with X entry visas, mine issued in Birmingham 2011 had the 'register within 14 days' printed. OH issued 2 years previously did not.

Last Dec. 2011 registered in Pune (where we happened to be) --great performance and fined for being late.
Not asked to show anything on leaving for UK.
This October didn't register -- again no problems on leaving.

Chameleons Dec 27th 2012 11:37 pm

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Originally Posted by jcbrum (Post 10452659)
The FRO in Panjim may allow them to register,but i do not know of anyone who has tried because of all the documents required ,i think it's about 32 in total.

Our one year business visa was issued in June and it says that the stay must not exceed 180 days and i'm pretty sure it applies to all business visas that are now granted.

John

We know at least 2 people who have business visas and register with the FRO every year (they both have 1 year visas), producing the fistful of documents! Obviously, they do not have the 180 day restriction on their visas. It is really not that difficult to produce all the documents if you have a bona fide business. So it can be done! However, most of the people we know with business visas either have the 180 day restriction or exile themselves voluntarily rather than register.

hemingway Dec 28th 2012 5:02 am

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Originally Posted by Chameleons (Post 10452893)
We know at least 2 people who have business visas and register with the FRO every year (they both have 1 year visas), producing the fistful of documents! Obviously, they do not have the 180 day restriction on their visas. It is really not that difficult to produce all the documents if you have a bona fide business. So it can be done! However, most of the people we know with business visas either have the 180 day restriction or exile themselves voluntarily rather than register.

From this link: http://mha.nic.in/foreigDiv/pdfs/FRR...on223.6.11.pdf

This is pretty clear:

d. Registration is also required in the case of visa less than 180 days and if there is special endorsement “for registration required”. However foreigners entering on Entry(X) and Business visas valid for more than 180 days are required to register with the FRRO, FRO if they continuously intend to stay for more than 6 months i.e. more than 180 days on each visit. (But exempting visa bearing endorsement as “Stay not to exceed 180days hence no registration required.”

Page 5 in the document linked above details the required documents for registration, which shouldn't be a problem.

I'd have thought it would be the MHA who instruct the Indian Missions abroad, with VFS being at the very bottom of the chain of command.

H.

Chameleons Dec 28th 2012 2:44 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by hemingway (Post 10453212)
From this link: http://mha.nic.in/foreigDiv/pdfs/FRR...on223.6.11.pdf

Page 5 in the document linked above details the required documents for registration, which shouldn't be a problem.

H.

We all wish it were so simple! In addition, you are asked for (amongst other things) a copy of your auditor's report; annual directors report; license from panchayat, FDD, excise dept, director of health; certificate of incorporation; memorandum and articles of association; FIRC; RBI registration no for FDI; share holding pattern of the company; etc., etc., Hence jcbrum's reference to the 32 pieces of paper. Also, because the company accounts/auditor's report refers to the previous year, they also ask for copy invoices from this year to prove that the company is still going! They have also started to asking for colour copies of a lot of the info!

Great fun......and, of course, very time consuming because you always 'miss' something.

hemingway Dec 28th 2012 5:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Chameleons (Post 10453758)
license from panchayat, FDD, excise dept, director of health;

Thanks for the detail in the reply. It's the items quoted above that would phase me & I can fully understand the reasons for the "self imposed exile" that has been referred to.

What's the place in Panjim (FRO/FRRO) like in terms of chaos (appointment only or free for all turn up, wait, push & shove etc)? I guess the "staff" are just as "friendly" as the Goa Police on immigration at Dabolim?

I would imagine that they take great delight when you have failed to dot an I, cross a T or have missed a document.

H.

Chameleons Dec 28th 2012 7:13 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by hemingway (Post 10453835)
Thanks for the detail in the reply. It's the items quoted above that would phase me & I can fully understand the reasons for the "self imposed exile" that has been referred to.

What's the place in Panjim (FRO/FRRO) like in terms of chaos (appointment only or free for all turn up, wait, push & shove etc)? I guess the "staff" are just as "friendly" as the Goa Police on immigration at Dabolim?

I would imagine that they take great delight when you have failed to dot an I, cross a T or have missed a document.

H.

The FRO people seem to have become reasonably friendly and helpful now they don't have quite so much to do. That said, you always have something missing! The eternal dance.

johnny five Dec 28th 2012 9:36 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by Chameleons (Post 10453899)
The FRO people seem to have become reasonably friendly and helpful now they don't have quite so much to do. That said, you always have something missing! The eternal dance.

In some cases, an actual business :rofl::rofl::rofl:


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noni Dec 28th 2012 9:45 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 10454029)
In some cases, an actual business :rofl::rofl::rofl:


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Wonder where these poor people stand that have invisible businesses Like the rest of us they were wrongly advised.

Chameleons Dec 28th 2012 10:45 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 10454029)
In some cases, an actual business :rofl::rofl::rofl:


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:nod:

a_f_d Dec 29th 2012 3:23 am

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Originally Posted by noni (Post 10454037)
..... Like the rest of us they were wrongly advised.

I wasn't wrongly advised, afaik Noni you weren't wrongly advised!

AndyD 8-)

noni Dec 29th 2012 3:37 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 10454352)
I wasn't wrongly advised, afaik Noni you weren't wrongly advised!

AndyD 8-)₹

I know it is the Government moving the goal posts, but with all the aggro it feel like it.

a_f_d Dec 29th 2012 3:39 am

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Originally Posted by noni (Post 10454373)
I know it is the Government moving the goal posts, but with all the aggro it feel like it.

yeah! I know!

johnny five Feb 11th 2013 11:12 pm

Re: Visa help.
 
Here's a new twist................

http://www.indiamike.com/india/india...4/#post1544906

How long before that becomes a general (un-announced) rule, especially as for British a 1 year visa is extortionate encouraging 6 month instead?


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noni Feb 12th 2013 1:52 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 10539785)
Here's a new twist................

http://www.indiamike.com/india/india...4/#post1544906

How long before that becomes a general (un-announced) rule, especially as for British a 1 year visa is extortionate encouraging 6 month instead?


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noni Feb 12th 2013 1:56 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 10539785)
Here's a new twist................

http://www.indiamike.com/india/india...4/#post1544906

How long before that becomes a general (un-announced) rule, especially as for British a 1 year visa is extortionate encouraging 6 month instead?


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msj5 Mar 8th 2013 3:04 pm

Re: Visa help.
 
This isn`t strictly visa related but just to let you all know that there is now absolutely NO problem with re-entry into India on a Tourist visa.
I have been up to Nepal for 5 days and had no problems with immigration at all.
:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Jessica Mar 9th 2013 2:48 am

Re: Visa help.
 
Good news. Thanks for that. Hope you enjoyed it!

msj5 Mar 9th 2013 3:15 am

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Originally Posted by Jessica (Post 10593729)
Good news. Thanks for that. Hope you enjoyed it!

Loved it apart from the 2 day bandh(strike) which brought the whole of nepal to a complete standstill. All shops and most restaurants closed and no taxis or buses!Was only there for 3 and half days !!!!!!!!!!
Just means I`ll have to go back in the future.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

cbc Apr 3rd 2013 1:47 am

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Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 10593192)
This isn`t strictly visa related but just to let you all know that there is now absolutely NO problem with re-entry into India on a Tourist visa.
I have been up to Nepal for 5 days and had no problems with immigration at all.
:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Hi sorry not been on this site for a while is the 2 month ban been lifted?

chrisjolly Apr 3rd 2013 2:22 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by cbc (Post 10638125)
Hi sorry not been on this site for a while is the 2 month ban been lifted?

Yes..you can leave and then get a new visa and enter again. the 180 days still applies

msj5 Apr 3rd 2013 4:40 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by chrisjolly (Post 10638176)
Yes..you can leave and then get a new visa and enter again. the 180 days still applies

Just to clarify. If you have a 6 month or 1 yr tourist visa you can come and go as you please provided your visa is multiple entry. There is also no restriction on time between two visas.:thumbsup:

cbc Apr 4th 2013 5:27 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by chrisjolly (Post 10638176)
Yes..you can leave and then get a new visa and enter again. the 180 days still applies

When did this happen? this is fantastic news for anyone who is living over there all the time, did I miss all the celebrations on here!!
So you can just go out to Nepal and come back as soon as you get a new visa?
Very Happy because that 2 month ban was a nightmare for anyone thinking of retiring over there.

leegrand Apr 4th 2013 2:30 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by cbc (Post 10640562)
When did this happen? this is fantastic news for anyone who is living over there all the time, did I miss all the celebrations on here!!
So you can just go out to Nepal and come back as soon as you get a new visa?
Very Happy because that 2 month ban was a nightmare for anyone thinking of retiring over there.

went Nepal oct 2012, budda air round Everest, now have to go again for stamp, chose Maldives and submarine trip, a bit dear but kids said if you don't spend it WE WILL, so decided to take their advice.
its a bit of a problem with visas as I am a brit, and marias indian, tried to get her a uk visa but was refused, will try again in may.

dreadsoc Apr 4th 2013 11:53 pm

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Originally Posted by leegrand (Post 10641292)
went Nepal oct 2012, budda air round Everest, now have to go again for stamp, chose Maldives and submarine trip, a bit dear but kids said if you don't spend it WE WILL, so decided to take their advice.
its a bit of a problem with visas as I am a brit, and marias indian, tried to get her a uk visa but was refused, will try again in may.


Hi Lee

Are you and Maria married?

If you are married : you may find you have rights to a UK visa under the Human Rights Act - RIGHT TO FAMILY
(Google the H.R.A and check up on the .gov.org site and you will see this)
You would also have rioght of appeal on the same grounds should her visa be refused

Dread - x

msj5 Apr 5th 2013 4:44 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by cbc (Post 10640562)
When did this happen? this is fantastic news for anyone who is living over there all the time, did I miss all the celebrations on here!!
So you can just go out to Nepal and come back as soon as you get a new visa?
Very Happy because that 2 month ban was a nightmare for anyone thinking of retiring over there.

See thread"Two months out ended". It happened somewhere around 12th Dec 2012.:thumbsup:

msj5 Apr 5th 2013 4:46 am

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Originally Posted by dreadsoc (Post 10641762)
Hi Lee

Are you and Maria married?

If you are married : you may find you have rights to a UK visa under the Human Rights Act - RIGHT TO FAMILY
(Google the H.R.A and check up on the .gov.org site and you will see this)
You would also have rioght of appeal on the same grounds should her visa be refused

Dread - x

Also Leegrand if you are married to an Indian you could apply for PIO.:confused:

Bipat Apr 5th 2013 5:31 am

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Originally Posted by dreadsoc (Post 10641762)
Hi Lee

Are you and Maria married?

If you are married : you may find you have rights to a UK visa under the Human Rights Act - RIGHT TO FAMILY
(Google the H.R.A and check up on the .gov.org site and you will see this)
You would also have rioght of appeal on the same grounds should her visa be refused

Dread - x

If I presume that Lee and his wife just want to visit UK?
I would think that Lee's wife falls between the two main types of visa. The above would be right if Lee was settled in the UK and his wife wanted to apply to be with him. However he is settled in India and they seem to just want to visit UK.
Applying for a visitor's visa you have to state that you are not going to UK to get married etc. that is might be wanting to settle.
So I presume if they are already married the same might apply and settlement intention would be suspected of Maria, but there must be some way of explaining, there must be others in same situation!!!

Lee do you have relatives or friends in UK that could sponsor your wife for a visitor's visa without you being involved ?

leegrand Apr 5th 2013 4:06 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by dreadsoc (Post 10641762)
Hi Lee

Are you and Maria married?

If you are married : you may find you have rights to a UK visa under the Human Rights Act - RIGHT TO FAMILY
(Google the H.R.A and check up on the .gov.org site and you will see this)
You would also have rioght of appeal on the same grounds should her visa be refused

Dread - x

we married 4th may 2012 at mapsa,
after 24 years in goa I thought filling in a uk visa form for her was easy.
I was wrong, they refused because they said I don't live in goa even though I sent my pport with 5 year x visa,and Maria would not return, even though she has apartment at Green Wood Medows Candolim in her name, two fixed deposits in bank, plus a new Wagon R in her name.

I read the refusal over, and over again, it didn't add up,and forget about about the appeal part, I tried, need to be a professer to get through it all.

Then the penny droped, money, apply again, pay again.
thank you all so much. x

a_f_d Apr 6th 2013 10:35 am

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Originally Posted by leegrand (Post 10642931)
we married 4th may 2012 at mapsa....

So on 5th May 2013 you can apply for a PIO card; you could already have got a 1-year X (actually Lee I thought you got one).

AndyD

P.S. No hang on - I think you need a 1 year X to get the PIO card!

leegrand Apr 6th 2013 1:55 pm

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Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 10643962)
So on 5th May 2013 you can apply for a PIO card; you could already have got a 1-year X (actually Lee I thought you got one).

AndyD

P.S. No hang on - I think you need a 1 year X to get the PIO card!

Andy, I have a 5 year x since last May.

a_f_d Apr 6th 2013 8:07 pm

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Originally Posted by leegrand (Post 10644130)
Andy, I have a 5 year x since last May.

That's what I thought you'd said, so I was confused by you saying

went Nepal oct 2012, budda air round Everest, now have to go again for stamp, chose Maldives
- go where you like and enjoy yourself - the best of luck - but what's 'the stamp' bit?

AndyD 8-)

msj5 Apr 7th 2013 1:26 am

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Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 10644399)
That's what I thought you'd said, so I was confused by you saying - go where you like and enjoy yourself - the best of luck - but what's 'the stamp' bit?

AndyD 8-)₹

I`d guess 180 days!!

a_f_d Apr 7th 2013 5:06 am

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Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 10644746)
I`d guess 180 days!!

On an X visa?

AndyD 8-)

msj5 Apr 7th 2013 6:00 am

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Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 10644993)
On an X visa?

AndyD 8-)₹

Why else?

leegrand Apr 7th 2013 1:35 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 10645070)
Why else?

Very smart the pair of you.

After getting the visa in May 2012 it told me to register within 15 days.
Went to the lady officer who shouted at me for having the 5 x HOW YOU GET THIS. We didn't get on at all, so I thought f... it, just go for a short holiday twice a year till I get P.I.O.
Marias never had a holiday ever, so a trip round Everest, and a submarine in Maldives is a treat for both of us.

Will reapply her UK visa in May.

Bipat Apr 7th 2013 8:41 pm

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Originally Posted by leegrand (Post 10645566)
Very smart the pair of you.

After getting the visa in May 2012 it told me to register within 15 days.
Went to the lady officer who shouted at me for having the 5 x HOW YOU GET THIS. We didn't get on at all, so I thought f... it, just go for a short holiday twice a year till I get P.I.O.
Marias never had a holiday ever, so a trip round Everest, and a submarine in Maldives is a treat for both of us.

Will reapply her UK visa in May.

Lee, as all our Indian relatives live in India, I have quite a lot of experience over the decades with visas for UK. It has become easier over the years but with changes to the Border Agency this month who knows?

You MUST have a sponsor in the UK.
(This requirement only dropped if you are part of a group package tour staying in a hotel, and then if you take time out of the tour you need a sponsor).

The simplest way seems to be to use a reputable travel agent for your RETURN tickets, rather than on-line booking. They will help with visa form and will provide a standardised sponsorship form for you to fill in and get signed.

leegrand Apr 8th 2013 2:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 10645883)
Lee, as all our Indian relatives live in India, I have quite a lot of experience over the decades with visas for UK. It has become easier over the years but with changes to the Border Agency this month who knows?

You MUST have a sponsor in the UK.
(This requirement only dropped if you are part of a group package tour staying in a hotel, and then if you take time out of the tour you need a sponsor).

The simplest way seems to be to use a reputable travel agent for your RETURN tickets, rather than on-line booking. They will help with visa form and will provide a standardised sponsorship form for you to fill in and get signed.

Thank you for your kind reply. Its all in hand, also my son is a Bollywood producer, he is giving the sponsor letter, but the main problem was me,
they said I didn't live in Goa, that is now solved with Advocates sworn letter.

Anyway, this time its BELT AND BRACES. will let you know.

Chameleons May 20th 2013 12:00 am

Re: Visa help.
 
Anybody want to send Sir James Bevan a question?

https://www.gov.uk/government/world-...ive-on-twitter


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