Visa help.
#376
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Re: Visa help.
Only the tip of the iceberg?
It is likely their intention to eventually use the "visa on arrival" for many countries, including Britain.
They can then use the visa as a tool to prevent tourists living in India/Go for more than 30 days with the 2 month out rule. One could only visit twice in one year with this type of visa.
Any longer duration then one would likely need to apply to IHC with good reason or show an officail travel itinerary with travel tickets.
The writing's on the wall!
Banyan.
#377
Re: Visa help.
Visa Update:
went to B'ham today and submitted an application for a 1-year X on the basis that we have a residence in Goa so are ineligible for a T visa.
The guy at VFS said the rules have changed and we can't have an X we have to have a Business visa. I pointed out that since we don't have a business we can't supply the necessary documents - after discussion VFS agreed to submit the application and let HCI decide what we get. They are supposed to phone me when they have an answer but wouldn't give me a contact no. to reach them (apparantly they have withdrawn all public phone no's), they also declined to give me a receipt for the passports ('it's a question of trust between him and me!').
I'll post here when / if I hear anything.
AndyD 8-)
went to B'ham today and submitted an application for a 1-year X on the basis that we have a residence in Goa so are ineligible for a T visa.
The guy at VFS said the rules have changed and we can't have an X we have to have a Business visa. I pointed out that since we don't have a business we can't supply the necessary documents - after discussion VFS agreed to submit the application and let HCI decide what we get. They are supposed to phone me when they have an answer but wouldn't give me a contact no. to reach them (apparantly they have withdrawn all public phone no's), they also declined to give me a receipt for the passports ('it's a question of trust between him and me!').
I'll post here when / if I hear anything.
AndyD 8-)
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#378
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Re: Visa help.
Well done Andy, a potentially risky strategy, but an amazingly (suspiciously?) fast response.
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#380
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Re: Visa help.
Reply to fpbutler under the GOA Beware thread number 3164.
Hi,
Sorry to disagree but there has been a massive fat money making scam taken place here.
You will need to read an article in "About.com: India Travel advising (outside) PIO's to apply for X entry visas.
http://goindia.about.com/od/visas/tp...visa-Types.htm
In terms of the several countries being allowed visa on arrival with the possibility of 16 others to follow. Should the UK be added to this list would the normal visa application stay in force or not or would the goal posts be moved?
Banyan.
Hi,
Sorry to disagree but there has been a massive fat money making scam taken place here.
You will need to read an article in "About.com: India Travel advising (outside) PIO's to apply for X entry visas.
http://goindia.about.com/od/visas/tp...visa-Types.htm
In terms of the several countries being allowed visa on arrival with the possibility of 16 others to follow. Should the UK be added to this list would the normal visa application stay in force or not or would the goal posts be moved?
Banyan.
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Re: Visa help.
[/Quote]
Sorry to disagree but there has been a massive fat money making scam taken place here.
You will need to read an article in "About.com: India Travel advising (outside) PIO's to apply for X entry visas.
http://goindia.about.com/od/visas/tp...visa-Types.htm
In terms of the several countries being allowed visa on arrival with the possibility of 16 others to follow. Should the UK be added to this list would the normal visa application stay in force or not or would the goal posts be moved?
Banyan.[/QUOTE]
The 'visa on arrival' is optional, I would have thought it will stay that way. It would be too difficult for immigration to deal with a large percentage of tourists getting their 'on arrival visa' also the practical difficulties with the 'refusals'.
Also your other point about NRI's; you are correct the term is used loosely to describe PIO's. Many of these apply for visas the advice given was to explain the option they have of the 5 year x type visa, but as I have previously said, the documentation rules for this have become recently very strict and specific. I am a PIO spouse but at Birmingham in August (won't go over the details again) I was refused a 5 year (in spite of previously always having this) and given a 1 year tourist. This type of ruling will apply to NRI's regardless of property owned. It seems if any doubts give a 1 year tourist!!
Sorry to disagree but there has been a massive fat money making scam taken place here.
You will need to read an article in "About.com: India Travel advising (outside) PIO's to apply for X entry visas.
http://goindia.about.com/od/visas/tp...visa-Types.htm
In terms of the several countries being allowed visa on arrival with the possibility of 16 others to follow. Should the UK be added to this list would the normal visa application stay in force or not or would the goal posts be moved?
Banyan.[/QUOTE]
The 'visa on arrival' is optional, I would have thought it will stay that way. It would be too difficult for immigration to deal with a large percentage of tourists getting their 'on arrival visa' also the practical difficulties with the 'refusals'.
Also your other point about NRI's; you are correct the term is used loosely to describe PIO's. Many of these apply for visas the advice given was to explain the option they have of the 5 year x type visa, but as I have previously said, the documentation rules for this have become recently very strict and specific. I am a PIO spouse but at Birmingham in August (won't go over the details again) I was refused a 5 year (in spite of previously always having this) and given a 1 year tourist. This type of ruling will apply to NRI's regardless of property owned. It seems if any doubts give a 1 year tourist!!
#383
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Re: Visa help.
Sorry to disagree but there has been a massive fat money making scam taken place here.
You will need to read an article in "About.com: India Travel advising (outside) PIO's to apply for X entry visas.
http://goindia.about.com/od/visas/tp...visa-Types.htm
In terms of the several countries being allowed visa on arrival with the possibility of 16 others to follow. Should the UK be added to this list would the normal visa application stay in force or not or would the goal posts be moved?
Banyan.[/QUOTE]
The 'visa on arrival' is optional, I would have thought it will stay that way. It would be too difficult for immigration to deal with a large percentage of tourists getting their 'on arrival visa' also the practical difficulties with the 'refusals'.
Also your other point about NRI's; you are correct the term is used loosely to describe PIO's. Many of these apply for visas the advice given was to explain the option they have of the 5 year x type visa, but as I have previously said, the documentation rules for this have become recently very strict and specific. I am a PIO spouse but at Birmingham in August (won't go over the details again) I was refused a 5 year (in spite of previously always having this) and given a 1 year tourist. This type of ruling will apply to NRI's regardless of property owned. It seems if any doubts give a 1 year tourist!![/QUOTE]
The visa on arrival will be great for the package tourists. After all this is what they want with a quick turn over of mass tourists. But as far as anyone wishing to stay any longer than 30 days it will be a nightmare. Is this not what it is all about to prevent long term tourist staying/living in India/Goa?
Sorry to disagree, but it would not be too difficult at all for the Indian Immigration to deal with as they are now in the computer age and the click of a key shows all!
There seems to be a hidden agenda here. Lets face it they do not care about how many peoples they spoilt in springing in the two month out rule and more importantly without any notice. A dam disgrace!
Banyan.
You will need to read an article in "About.com: India Travel advising (outside) PIO's to apply for X entry visas.
http://goindia.about.com/od/visas/tp...visa-Types.htm
In terms of the several countries being allowed visa on arrival with the possibility of 16 others to follow. Should the UK be added to this list would the normal visa application stay in force or not or would the goal posts be moved?
Banyan.[/QUOTE]
The 'visa on arrival' is optional, I would have thought it will stay that way. It would be too difficult for immigration to deal with a large percentage of tourists getting their 'on arrival visa' also the practical difficulties with the 'refusals'.
Also your other point about NRI's; you are correct the term is used loosely to describe PIO's. Many of these apply for visas the advice given was to explain the option they have of the 5 year x type visa, but as I have previously said, the documentation rules for this have become recently very strict and specific. I am a PIO spouse but at Birmingham in August (won't go over the details again) I was refused a 5 year (in spite of previously always having this) and given a 1 year tourist. This type of ruling will apply to NRI's regardless of property owned. It seems if any doubts give a 1 year tourist!![/QUOTE]
The visa on arrival will be great for the package tourists. After all this is what they want with a quick turn over of mass tourists. But as far as anyone wishing to stay any longer than 30 days it will be a nightmare. Is this not what it is all about to prevent long term tourist staying/living in India/Goa?
Sorry to disagree, but it would not be too difficult at all for the Indian Immigration to deal with as they are now in the computer age and the click of a key shows all!
There seems to be a hidden agenda here. Lets face it they do not care about how many peoples they spoilt in springing in the two month out rule and more importantly without any notice. A dam disgrace!
Banyan.
#384
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Re: Visa help.
Andy, Well done in getting the one year tourist. Obviously they are not ready to issue an X Visa at present, despite whatever the Britih High Commissioner might say. This is what happened to us last year. We had the one year Tourist. We found the forced exit at 6 months such a hassle that we exited and did not bother go back. We saw no point in paying the airfare to go back in July to stay until September with then another forced 2 month exile. We want to make sure we are there for November/December. However this means we paid for a year and stayed for only 6 months. This is a waste of money. For this reason we are seriously thinking of just applying for a 6 month Tourist Visa this time as the 1 year Tourist was not much use ( to us anyway). Hopefully it will be more use to you.
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Re: Visa help.
QUOTE] Banyan
The visa on arrival will be great for the package tourists. After all this is what they want with a quick turn over of mass tourists. But as far as anyone wishing to stay any longer than 30 days it will be a nightmare. Is this not what it is all about to prevent long term tourist staying/living in India/Goa?
Sorry to disagree, but it would not be too difficult at all for the Indian Immigration to deal with as they are now in the computer age and the click of a key shows all!
There seems to be a hidden agenda here. Lets face it they do not care about how many peoples they spoilt in springing in the two month out rule and more importantly without any notice. A dam disgrace!
Banyan.[/QUOTE]
Could you not consider that the changing of visa rules (for many countries including USA) might be, as stated, for national security. The Indian Gov. has a billion people to protect there are many ports of entry besides Mumbai. Why would the Indian Gov. change its whole visa system world wide just to cause trouble to a few thousand expats in Goa !!! Yes it will cause a great deal of trouble for some but I imagine the Gov. considers security more important. Whether they are over reacting is a matter of opinion.
The visa on arrival will be great for the package tourists. After all this is what they want with a quick turn over of mass tourists. But as far as anyone wishing to stay any longer than 30 days it will be a nightmare. Is this not what it is all about to prevent long term tourist staying/living in India/Goa?
Sorry to disagree, but it would not be too difficult at all for the Indian Immigration to deal with as they are now in the computer age and the click of a key shows all!
There seems to be a hidden agenda here. Lets face it they do not care about how many peoples they spoilt in springing in the two month out rule and more importantly without any notice. A dam disgrace!
Banyan.[/QUOTE]
Could you not consider that the changing of visa rules (for many countries including USA) might be, as stated, for national security. The Indian Gov. has a billion people to protect there are many ports of entry besides Mumbai. Why would the Indian Gov. change its whole visa system world wide just to cause trouble to a few thousand expats in Goa !!! Yes it will cause a great deal of trouble for some but I imagine the Gov. considers security more important. Whether they are over reacting is a matter of opinion.
#386
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Re: Visa help.
QUOTE] Banyan
The visa on arrival will be great for the package tourists. After all this is what they want with a quick turn over of mass tourists. But as far as anyone wishing to stay any longer than 30 days it will be a nightmare. Is this not what it is all about to prevent long term tourist staying/living in India/Goa?
Sorry to disagree, but it would not be too difficult at all for the Indian Immigration to deal with as they are now in the computer age and the click of a key shows all!
There seems to be a hidden agenda here. Lets face it they do not care about how many peoples they spoilt in springing in the two month out rule and more importantly without any notice. A dam disgrace!
Banyan.
The visa on arrival will be great for the package tourists. After all this is what they want with a quick turn over of mass tourists. But as far as anyone wishing to stay any longer than 30 days it will be a nightmare. Is this not what it is all about to prevent long term tourist staying/living in India/Goa?
Sorry to disagree, but it would not be too difficult at all for the Indian Immigration to deal with as they are now in the computer age and the click of a key shows all!
There seems to be a hidden agenda here. Lets face it they do not care about how many peoples they spoilt in springing in the two month out rule and more importantly without any notice. A dam disgrace!
Banyan.
Hi,
One does fully respect the national security and expect it to come first and foremost. However, why won't they allow people to sell up and open the transfer property register? This saga has gone on since 2006.
ARE THEY WAITING FOR US TO DIE OFF OR WHAT?
We are reading about confications which are now taking place. This is very alarming and worrying for people who have put their live savings in to retirement homes in Goa.
Banyan.
#387
Re: Visa help.
One does fully respect the national security and expect it to come first and foremost. However, why won't they allow people to sell up and open the transfer property register? This saga has gone on since 2006.
ARE THEY WAITING FOR US TO DIE OFF OR WHAT?
We are reading about confications which are now taking place. This is very alarming and worrying for people who have put their live savings in to retirement homes in Goa.
Banyan.
ARE THEY WAITING FOR US TO DIE OFF OR WHAT?
We are reading about confications which are now taking place. This is very alarming and worrying for people who have put their live savings in to retirement homes in Goa.
Banyan.
#388
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Re: Visa help.
With respect, the discussion was originally about recent visa changes and the Central Indian government's reasons.