Namaste Goan_friend ( Sri/ kumariji)_

(SNIP)

Re the above; how can Goan lawyers take our money,Goan builders/developers take our money, how can local Goan Panchyats approve the land for development knowing full well these developments are NOT going to be used for local Goan people, how can the Indian banks exchange our money and hold money in accounts knowing full well what the money is being used for ? answer Because they KNOW we have no chance of re-dress !
If ANY of the above would have occurred in the UK at least we have a chance of getting our money back and YES we know this is India and not the UK but one would expect the Worlds largest "democracy" to at least have some form of conscious :curse:

Dhannivaad

K-C

There is no answer to your questions KC - none of us know, not even the legal profession in Goa.

As far as DJ's sad stories goes, we too have taken locals to see hospital consultants, payed for their treatment, looked after a local family and then what happens - yes! you have guessed it. They always want more.
The most upsetting to me was when we helped an orphanage - the children did not benefit from the toys and clothes the nuns sold the items even the brand new fridge which the girls at work had paid for.

As far as tourist prices are concerned there are no two tier system in the UK. You pay, whatever your colour, the price on the sales ticket.
I will willingly pay the price marked on the goods in the shops in Goa, but not Newtons when they scratch out the price and increase it.

Hello Goan_Friend and thank you for your offer of providing advise on Goa related matters. My queries are related with taking possesssion of a (soon to be completed) residential unit in Benaulim, South Goa.
I understand that on completion of a project, the builder applies for an Occupancy Certificate and on getting it sends out letters to purchasers asking them to take possession/keys to their units.

Other than construction related problems with the unit which need to fixed by the developer, I can think of atleast 4 things that need to be done by the purchaser:
Please advise what else is required ..

1) Have the unit registered at the sub-registrar and pay Registration Fee (2% ?) and Stamp Duty Fee (2 % ?). Please confirm if these are still 2% each on a property with a sale agreement price of under Rs 40 Lac ?
How long does the registration process take ? Other than passports/OCI/other papers to show NRI/PIO/OCI status what else is required in terms of paper work ? Is there a way to expedite the registration process - like a Tatkal service that some government departments offer ? Can one start living in ones purchased residential unit before the registration process is complete ? assuming we are somehow able to make arrangements for electricity/water and dont mind roughing it out a bit ..

2) How soon can one apply for a Water connection and make sure that bills start coming in the name of the purchaser(s) ? Is registration of the residential unit a pre-requisite to applying for a water connection in ones name ? Approx how much does this cost if required quickly through tatkal/express channels ?

3) Similar to point 2, how soon can one apply for a 3 phase Electricity Connection and make sure that bills start coming in the name of the purchaser(s) ? Is registration of the residential unit a pre requisite to applying for an electricity connection in ones name ? Approx how much does this cost if required to be done quickly through tatkal/express channels ?

4) How does one go about applying for an LPG connection with 2 cylinders and what paperwork is required to achieve this in an expedited manner.

To summarize the above, other than applying to the sub-registrar for registration, one needs to apply for an electricity connection, water connection, lpg connection in ones name. is there anything else that one needs to do. please let me know if there is.

Once the above is done, we plan on doing basic furnishing, curtains, blinds, fans, lights, air conditioners, inverter, water filter, grills etc and would then like to hand over the residential unit to a reliable/well known property management company in south Goa who can let out and maintain our property on our behalf . we are looking for a company who markets their listed properties well, does a great job with maintenance, pays the bills on time and does not ask us to pay to list with them, rather we expect them to pay us a fair percentage of the rental income and also makes the unit available to us during our short duration visits. If you can suggest such companies in South Goa that would be appreciated.

We expect our residential unit to be ready Dec 2009 and are planning a 3 week trip (that's all the time we can get off from work). Since 3 weeks is cutting it fine considering all of the above tasks, I am trying to establish the best approach that would make it possible to complete these tasks during our dec visit to goa. Again thank you for whatever advise/tips/opinions you can share..

Christ,there's one born every minute,^(but I think there were a lot of minutes saved up for this one) Alice in Wonderland comes to mind

thank you for your reply mitzy, as you say every one is entitled to there own opinion, but i thought this was a BRITISH EXPATS SITE SERVING THE EXPATRIATE COMMUNITY which i assumed meant to be on here you fulfilled the criteria, if not the site should obviously have a different name (maybe indian mike 2)
thank you

Yes for sure, but serving the ex pat community can be done by having a number of locals here, as has happened in many areas of the forum. Its good to have a local take. In Spain we have a lot of Spaniards registered and they have been more than helpful on certain issues

I dont think we need to replicate the forum you mention

Quite so!
One forum is enough for telling Indian Tourists how to see the WHOLE of Goa during their THREE day holiday there...................

'I wish to be partying in crazy Goa when I visit for the weekend in July. Will Club Cubana,Titos,Mambos and the all night raves that hippies go to be on?"

Dear Indian Tourist
Suggest you go to Calangute Steps where you will find many compatriots. There you can all sit down and make up stories to tell friends and family when you get home. An opportunity to take "snaps" with lots of other "party people" will be available. The least crowded nightclub will be Club Cubana as it has been closed for two years.

Also, please remember to liberally distribute your rubbish all over the beach and surrounding countryside. At no point must you think to take it away with you.

I cannot believe Goan Friend who has started this thread has not interjected with any helpful advice for a while,not personally on my behalf or because I'm hurting,in pain or otherwise,but just some helpful advice on the current situation as to the potential flood of ex pats who would Im sure wish to abandon (poste haste I should think) that bit of "paradise"
Being in the position as others are of being trapped in a situation that is no fault of our own ,only the Goans have brought this situation on us,The Goan authorities acting illegally in not processing our documents,are merely awaiting like vultures to pick our bones,well hopefully things are a changing.As the saying goes you can fool some people some of the time ,but not all of the people all of the time I think,India as a whole (should I say hole)is getting its fingers caught in too many cookie jars lately.
(SNIP)
you suggest the FNs cost Goa money using the "free health services, jail food psychiatric services (if needs must)but then you readily admit the UK gives India £1 billion a year in aid,that is my taxes and I do not wish to give India anything. Also the people on the dole, living there in Goa ,but how many Indians especially Goans are bloodsuckers in the UK. On the balance Goan Friend I do not think your argument stands up to scrutiny.As for the politicians there in Goa,well there is a subject on its own Mickey francisco whatshisname,the tourist minister condemning gambling one week,the next week gets caught with his pants down in a casino pleading that they owe him 1 crore plus from his gambling,(oh forgot bigamy charges )as for the other sleaze bags Churchill and company,well the hand of sleaze bag mark one Keith Vaz seems to be taking a hand
(SNIP)too many fingers in the cookie jar Goan Friend,crying wolf far too often. The world is waking up and realising that India is the most corrupt place on Earth

These are very relevant questions. I too would like to know about these issues.

Could anybody on this forum please help us with these queries?

regards

IJ

Well, I think as far as Goan Friend is concerned, he's been chased off

Kido,
You certainly took your time answering what were supposed to be racial overtones allegedly written recently. Well it was not the recipients of the Goan authorities that started this latest round of troubles the foreigners are facing,but the Goans/Indians themselves,as I have made aware of many times. Accuse an Indian of anything and he/she will cry to high heaven that it wasn't me,but let the Indian accuse anyone else but then its blue murder,this being the case with your answer(expected),something confirmed by the most celebrated politician this century,(sweet tongued, evil minded).I may well personally have some good news on your latest statement of not going anywhere soon (wink,wink).
As for one of the questions concerning services to a establishment,forget it unless you have 5 years put aside awaiting developments,and of course that the building that is supposedly ready is still not a hole in the ground.Another hint Kido speeling mistakes can be seen underwritten in red ,right click and bingo spell checker.

I've been reading this thread with an increasing unease.

I've found the Buyer Beware thread a very good source of information. It was advice on that forum that led me to acquire PIO and now OCI status before buying in Goa.

I have sympathised with the posters on that forum who find themselves in difficulty despite having acted in good faith.

I find that sympathy waning in the light of the comments being made here.

Goan Friend, I would suggest you not bother wasting your time posting here or attempting to help. You do not deserve the derision and suspicion that you have been met with and you gain nothing from it, except perhaps an insight into attitudes towards Indians and Goans that you may, in your naivety, have not been aware of before.

Regards,

Gruber