Hi evryone...i see some Goa bashing going on in this forum...as a Goan obviously this is not something i am happy with. i understand that some ppl have left Goa with a very bad taste in their mouths...and i do understand why they are frustrated and angry...

i intend to advise ppl on any Goa issues they may face...so do let me know if there is anything you need to know... i am not a lawyer or anything but will do my best to answer to the best of my knowledge and common sense...

regards!

Hello Goan-Friend,

Welcome to the site. Members of this forum don't Goa bash as you put it - but we ARE frustrated & angry at the treatment/injustice that has been dealt out to us. EVERYONE is aware of the 'registration' issue that you've mentioned on another thread.

As for you advising others, I can only speak for myself, BUT I would need to know you 'very well' before I sought advice from you on Goa issues which are personal to myself.

Infact, if you are our 'Goan-Friend' - please add your signture to the petition that can be accessed via the link shown below:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/goahomes/


Regards

Hemingway

fair enough...

but advice is just that...advice. thats the beauty of it. its not arm twisting of any kind..so, if it makes sense to you and u wanna utilise it, be my guest.

i might be able to bring forward a point that never occured to anyone.

so u see, its really up to you (or whoevers asking for the advice) if they wanna make use of it!

Advice & opinions are different - Opinions are like ar***oles - everyone has one & they are entitled to their opinion, so do let us have your opinions on things!

Advice is a 'different kettle of fish' altogether - it can usually relate to one person's personal situation & that's what people may not want to discuss: their personal situation with a stranger. I'd want to know & trust someone before discussing a personal matter with them.

Regards

Hemingway

I like Hemingway feel the same no disrepect to you but all of us have listen to the advise of "so called law abidding lawyers,builders and goan "so called" friends and this is the mess we are in, what makes you think your advise will be any different to theirs sorry but i am up to my eyeballs in advise and have been for the last 2 years and it has got us nowhere.
I just want to sell and get the hell out of Goa as my life is just day to day torment and not happiness as i had hoped for.

well like u said there is advice and there are opinions... i will advise abt issues that i am certain i know the answers to. i do not charge for this as lawyers do so i have nothing to gain.

If if dont know the answers then i will tell u guys so. but i am in a position to find out things for u. again whether u wanna listen to it or not is up2 u.

And abt discussing personal matters..we just knw each othr by our profile names. i wldn't knw u if u crossed me on the street. so how does your privacy get compromised..

anyway...my offer stands..if you feel u can benefit from what i have to say..then pls let me knw..

i remain..

I appreicate your wanting to help but i think you would serve us better by talking to the goan government and advising them on the issues that caused this problem they havent got a brain between them all,
weve had top lawyers on our cases, BBC interviews, petitions to our own government, letters to the Indian goverment please advise what more we do to solve this problem, I have deeds in my name and still i cant sell you tell me cos i dont know where to turn anymore

you are right abt this...at the moment ppl in your position are stuck.. i am sorry abt this. the same registrars who registered your deeds when you bought the property are not registering it now when you wanna sell it.

the situation is unfair. u will have the e.d. on ur back and unscrupulous ppl wanting to buy the property from you for half of wat its worth.

the thing is the Goan Gov is aware that some FN's have knowingly bent and broken the rules in order to buy property. sorting this mess out will take time.
if you have bought your property legally, then wat do have to worry abt?

if you have been misled into buying your property illegally then this a different matter altogether isn't it?

i am aware that your government is putting pressure on the indian government to sort this issue out.

my 'opinion' is...the indian gov cannot distinguish between FN's who bought legally or otherwise and will be pressurised by the Brit Gov. So they will have no option but to regularise all these purchases..

its a matter of holding on..

I like many did my homework before buying my home, i wouldnt invest unless i did, i brought my place on the correct visa, transfered my money the correct way, got RBI permission, signed my deeds infront of the registrar, have been before the D of E 1 year ago and have heard nothing, have been offered stupid money for my property, but i want out, i cant now afford to keep coming and going into this country every 6 months and why should i have to goans and indians living in the UK dont have to, I invested my savings in buying a property i intended to live in until i died, loved the place and made "friends" invited people from the UK to visit cos i loved the place so much.
How times have changed:- I want out the place has lost all its charm, its dirty and so corrupt they would sell their own mothers !!!!! to get a quick rupee!!!as for people wanting to visit i'd say stay away now not recommended for people who want to get conned.
And please tell me how long is it going to take to find out who brought legally, the Dof E only interviews 1 person a day and if your lucky he may turn up cos many people have gone to interviews to be told his had to go away wait for another letter, not to panjim but to Mumbai .. yet again they think we have money to throw away on trips back and froth to mumbai, oh no i forgot FN's are loaded....

Welcome Goan_friend.

I hope you understand why peoples emotions are running high. We who have our deeds cannot sell to anybody - black, brown, or green, as having a white passport photo on the original Deeds the Register will just throw your file on the floor - fact.

Like others are under investigation.

Why are the Advocates advising wrongly, and the deeds being registered if it was illegal to purchase.
They can see in the registery office you are white, when they take your finger prints - they ask enough questions about your family background etc.

Please tell me the way you see 'buying legally'.
I love my Goan home - I just hate the hassle from the authorities.

Poppetjay;

Its obvious that you have a couple of issues. its not just the property you're concerned abt, but also the visa situation.

can i just ask, did you ever execute an agreement to sell with the builder/property owner? wat visa were u on then?

Also, if u say that u followed all the procedures, then again i ask, wat are u worried abt? who is questioning u? wat are they asking u? if u have fulfilled all the requirements, wt makes u think u are in trouble?

Evry FN who bought land is under the scanner. So if u have been questioned, it is but natural cos evry1 is having to do this. if u have presented ur case corretly then what do u have to worri abt? y are u guys hitting the panic button?

abt the D.o.E. not turnin up and other issues, are u really surprised abt this? this is a government dept and is no diff from others in India. We indians live with this everyday. this a fact most FN's knew even before they came to live here, buy land here etc. Even when u were tourists here, did u not encounter any form of incompetency by our government depts?

And b4 u say y dont we locals do something abt government officials, i'm sorry but i dont have the strength and effort to deal with this. i will cross that bridge when i come to it.

the visa issue is a diff matter. yes it is incovinient to come back every six months..but when u compare it to the possibility of losing ur property, its not that important. dont u think?

Noni;

the answers to your questions are obvious aren't they...you have been cheated by the lawyers and governmnet registrars and builders etc..

wat i wonder is, have any of u FN's filed criminal cases against the registrars? if they have so obviously brkn the law, then y are u not taking action against them? a builder and lawyer may be able to get away with some things.

the registrar can so obviously not get away. wat abt filing criminal cases against him, rather than civil cases?

wat do u think?

I hope you are correct.

H.

What is your view of Buying Legally in Goa for a FN?

old man;

difficult question. i am not legally trained but will try...

i am not aware if the law ever said that FN's were not allowed to buy land at all.

earlier, because X visas were being granted, FN's could satisfy residency requirements (among others) and buy.

Now, because of visa restrictions etc. and government restrictions it is next to impossible to buy property..

my advice...dont even think abt it...rent if u want...thats hassle free..