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#46
I have a PIO Card (15 year visa)which gives me certain rights. OCI is better as it lasts for life but at the time i applied it didnt exist.
I reckon im lucky in many ways to qualify for PIO/OCI but i wouldnt live in Goa indefinately.....maybe retire there someday if it hasnt lost its charm by then. Ideally i would love to spend between 3 and 6 months there per year and that would do me. I dont think it would be a smart thing to cut away from the UK and i actually think Gordon Brown is the best thing to happen to this country for years. Thank the Lord Phoney Tony had the sense to stand down.
Sorry for going off on one.
Regards,
Remy
#47
Hi Remy
I agree with you, the problem is that we have all been educated by years of immigration and laws against discrimination, we have been taught that everybody has rights and should be treated in the same way.
It is difficult to change these attitudes just because one is in a foreign country and therefore it sits uncomfortably in the mind when people smile and then charge you more because you are different, tell you that you aren't wanted because you are different.
People see foreigners come to the UK and apparently settle, buy property, set up any business they desire, without hindrance from the government or bribes to officials. So when Brits move abroad they automatically feel that they should be treated in a similar manner.
YES, I know this is very simplistic but I would bet that a lot of FNs can empathise with this.
Regards
Tony P
I agree with you, the problem is that we have all been educated by years of immigration and laws against discrimination, we have been taught that everybody has rights and should be treated in the same way.
It is difficult to change these attitudes just because one is in a foreign country and therefore it sits uncomfortably in the mind when people smile and then charge you more because you are different, tell you that you aren't wanted because you are different.
People see foreigners come to the UK and apparently settle, buy property, set up any business they desire, without hindrance from the government or bribes to officials. So when Brits move abroad they automatically feel that they should be treated in a similar manner.
YES, I know this is very simplistic but I would bet that a lot of FNs can empathise with this.
Regards
Tony P
I agree and you have hit the nail on the head here.
Regards,
Remy
#52
Hi Helene,
I have a PIO Card (15 year visa)which gives me certain rights. OCI is better as it lasts for life but at the time i applied it didnt exist.
I reckon im lucky in many ways to qualify for PIO/OCI but i wouldnt live in Goa indefinately.....maybe retire there someday if it hasnt lost its charm by then. Ideally i would love to spend between 3 and 6 months there per year and that would do me. I dont think it would be a smart thing to cut away from the UK and i actually think Gordon Brown is the best thing to happen to this country for years. Thank the Lord Phoney Tony had the sense to stand down.
Sorry for going off on one.
Regards,
Remy
I have a PIO Card (15 year visa)which gives me certain rights. OCI is better as it lasts for life but at the time i applied it didnt exist.
I reckon im lucky in many ways to qualify for PIO/OCI but i wouldnt live in Goa indefinately.....maybe retire there someday if it hasnt lost its charm by then. Ideally i would love to spend between 3 and 6 months there per year and that would do me. I dont think it would be a smart thing to cut away from the UK and i actually think Gordon Brown is the best thing to happen to this country for years. Thank the Lord Phoney Tony had the sense to stand down.
Sorry for going off on one.
Regards,
Remy
#53
I was in a black cab yesterday and the driver tells me that the unlicenced "private hire" cabs don't get pulled in for a 6 monthly vehicle/ driver background checks, etc. Many are being driven by the influx of Eastern European immigrants who do not speak English or know their way around the city so they have a Council paid for interpreter (as well as Sat Nav). Rapes of young inebreiated women are on the increase because of differing cultural interpretations of when "No" means "No", and whether intoxication is an invitation to unconsenting intercourse.
Our Local Council have instructed that all references to Christmas or Christianity be removed from all "Seasonal Greetings" cards they send out for 25th. December.
An English boy applied for a job last week in a UK travel agent and was refused because he cannot speak Punjabi. Surely, that is blatant race discrimination under the Race Discrimination Act, or does that only work in one direction?
Our Local Council website has a dedicated Link for Polish speakers which amongst other things lists their entitlement to benefits, even Child Benefit for their children left in their home countries, and they are claiming twice, st home and in the UK for the same benefit, without checks.
UK companies have instructed employees not to eat at their desks during Ramadam in case it offends Muslim colleagues. All food trolleys and vending machines have temporarily been removed in some companies and government organisations.
School children in Clackmannanshire, Scotland are being given day trip tours of the local mosque "to promote a better understanding and tolerance towards Islam". This follows the conviction and jailing of a jihadist based in the area and plotting to kill and mutilate innocent "infidel" lives. The Muslim minority are not being offered a reciprocal opportunity to visit a Christian Church in order to attempt to integrate to British culture and society.
When a "foreigner" in the UK goes to the supermarket checkout with an item priced say at £15, they are not then charged £30 because their skin tone or language might be different.
End of Daily Mail style rant for the moment!
Our Local Council have instructed that all references to Christmas or Christianity be removed from all "Seasonal Greetings" cards they send out for 25th. December.
An English boy applied for a job last week in a UK travel agent and was refused because he cannot speak Punjabi. Surely, that is blatant race discrimination under the Race Discrimination Act, or does that only work in one direction?
Our Local Council website has a dedicated Link for Polish speakers which amongst other things lists their entitlement to benefits, even Child Benefit for their children left in their home countries, and they are claiming twice, st home and in the UK for the same benefit, without checks.
UK companies have instructed employees not to eat at their desks during Ramadam in case it offends Muslim colleagues. All food trolleys and vending machines have temporarily been removed in some companies and government organisations.
School children in Clackmannanshire, Scotland are being given day trip tours of the local mosque "to promote a better understanding and tolerance towards Islam". This follows the conviction and jailing of a jihadist based in the area and plotting to kill and mutilate innocent "infidel" lives. The Muslim minority are not being offered a reciprocal opportunity to visit a Christian Church in order to attempt to integrate to British culture and society.
When a "foreigner" in the UK goes to the supermarket checkout with an item priced say at £15, they are not then charged £30 because their skin tone or language might be different.
End of Daily Mail style rant for the moment!
at the risk of being branded a racist/fundamentalist etc, when a government tells its citizens that they should not celebrate their festivals, like they have always done, and simply as a "season" and thus make it all a big joke and then, to add insult to injury, wants them to observer the religious/social convictions of others (especially if they are a minority), then to my mind, such a government has lost all perspective and sense and needs to be told so.
But on the other hand if a private travel agency needs a person who can communicate in a particular language since most of its clients converse in that language that in my opinion is not discrimination rather it is is job requirement and perhaps the only thing that the travel agency should be expected to do is that when it advertises for the situation vacant advert. it should clearly state that fluency in language X is essential . In India too taking a hypothetical case if a travel agent refuses a person a job if that person does not speak, say Hebrew, (when the advertisement from the agency stated so) and because the agency wants to deal with tourist from Israel I would say the agency is within its rights to do so.
regards
KKK
Last edited by KKK; Sep 27th 2007 at 2:04 pm.
#54
Hi Wheatsheaf
It is sad but a fact of life that people always feel superior to someone else, I get discriminated against because:
I'm old
Male
Heterosexual
Healthy ish
A smoker OMG
A drinker
English
No kids
In work (Well not any longer)
Out of work
Owned my own home (Well not any longer)
Homeless
Educated
Articulate
Literate
Discrimination is caused by the arrogance of the ignorant.
TP
It is sad but a fact of life that people always feel superior to someone else, I get discriminated against because:
I'm old
Male
Heterosexual
Healthy ish
A smoker OMG
A drinker
English
No kids
In work (Well not any longer)
Out of work

Owned my own home (Well not any longer)
Homeless

Educated
Articulate
Literate
Discrimination is caused by the arrogance of the ignorant.
TP
I would like to add
I get discriminated against because
I think
I speak my mind
I talk too much (when I want to)
I dont talk much (again when I don't want to)
and finally
Because I exist.
regards
KKK
But still look at poor me like wheatsheaf I am a good boy I don't make any castist, racist, jingoistic remarks. :_
#55
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Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 71


Hi Mr. Remy-Douglas,This is just like old times, lets have a good argument.
Like Wen we don't want to change anything, just be left alone to enjoy or retirement, we've all worked bloody hard to get this far.
When being asked would we like a taxi, come into my shop, come to my resturant, my beach shack, hassled on the beach, what should we all be saying, sorry you don't want us here, so money staying in our pocket, I don't think so.
There has got to be give and take - not take, take, take.

Why should we give up our pension rights, we have bloody well paid for them long enough.
Bet you are having a go at me
Remy, can see my email advisor jumping up and down.
NoniI have heard through the Calangute grapvine that Wen has done a Britny and shaved all her hair off!!!! I hope it does not become a statment from FN. I have visions of a lot of bald women walking around Calangute. I dont think it will help us get an x visa.
#56
BREAKING NEWS FROM CALANGUTE
I have heard through the Calangute grapvine that Wen has done a Britny and shaved all her hair off!!!! I hope it does not become a statment from FN. I have visions of a lot of bald women walking around Calangute. I dont think it will help us get an x visa.
I have heard through the Calangute grapvine that Wen has done a Britny and shaved all her hair off!!!! I hope it does not become a statment from FN. I have visions of a lot of bald women walking around Calangute. I dont think it will help us get an x visa.
#57
Hi All Partybashers,
Please dont forget to fill in the RSVP slip under 'Meet Ups' for the bash in December.
Sorry for crossthreading.
Regards,
Remy






