Originally Posted by wen

Here Here Noni
Very well wrote, and obviously, they are still saying you can buy in Goa and we won't change that neither. In effect I don't want to change anything, I love my life, I just want to know how people feel about this whole damned mess, because like you said nearly everyone that has bought thought they had the right to buy

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland

and here lies the problem.

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland

Hi Tony,

Let me take on the roll of an Indian Government tourist official for this post.
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Wanting to be Goan dosnt give you the right to be Goan.
Like you say many people dont want to give up their UK status,pension rights etc etc.

But you cant serve two masters........and what is the real differance between a tourist who stays for two weeks and one who stays for a year?

The one who stays for two weeks is more likely to be a frequent visitor and be a higher spender than the long term one. A long termer knows how to budget and make their money stretch. They 'eat in' more and shop at supermarkets. They dont rely on puplic transport to the same degree as many have their own bikes and cars. They rent accomodation or 'purchase' and dont use 4 or 5 star hotels. They dont go on official government guided tours. They let their families and friends use 'their' accomodation which dosent benefit the hotel tourist sector.

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Basically they dont want longtermers which is sad for us. I like most of you want to be a longtermer in Goa but because i want it doesnt mean it'll happen. All countries have some sort of visa/right to abode restrictions.......India is not an exception and a lot of countries including the UK change and ammend these rules regularly again India is no exception.

Short term/ high spenders is what they really want........hence all these floating casinos now appearing. They want this to be the new mecca and us hippie, budget buyers simply arnt included in their plans.

Regards,
Remy

Originally Posted by noni

Remy

Now I know what to buy your for Christmas "Viagra".

FN's who resort to crime should be deported immediately, as should the foreign criminals in our country - but what do we do - keep them here, feed, house, cloth, eductate, give them money. Will we get free medical/hospital treatment out there - no way.

Certain fractions of the ethnic minority in this country dictate terms, we are too lenient.

All Wen wants, like the rest of us is to live in Goa in peace, none of us are asking for them to finance us.

If as being said, we cannot, or should not have bought in Goa, why are the developers/advocates/estate agents/registras not being prosecuted for selling to us, and registering our deeds - to me it seems all onesided.

As far as we were concerned when we bought, we were allowed to, we had the right visa, stayed in India the required time, remitted the finances through the banking system etc. etc. So whatever any of you say, from day one the ball goes back to the top of the chain.

No we cannot demonstrate, and we would be foolish to do so, but we can
have a good rant.

There that's better

noni

p.s. have now taken cover under the computer table.

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland

and here lies the problem.

Originally Posted by noni

Hi Mr. Remy-Douglas,

This is just like old times, lets have a good argument.

Like Wen we don't want to change anything, just be left alone to enjoy or retirement, we've all worked bloody hard to get this far.

When being asked would we like a taxi, come into my shop, come to my resturant, my beach shack, hassled on the beach, what should we all be saying, sorry you don't want us here, so money staying in our pocket, I don't think so.

There has got to be give and take - not take, take, take.

Why should we give up our pension rights, we have bloody well paid for them long enough.

Bet you are having a go at me Remy, can see my email advisor jumping up and down. Noni

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland

Oh Noni,

A big percentage also keep our NHS going and they pay their taxes and contribute to our society. I dont believe in making any differance in people because they look or sound differant or dont agree with my Christian views.

There are rats and prats in every race & creed and the Uk like India is without exception.
I know most of us want to live in Goa in peace but try and look at it from their perspective and thats before you even think about the colonial/raj aspect of things.

I think the best we can hope for is that the rules arnt further tightened and that they wont exclude those on lease/sale agreements or then we will really be in trouble.


Remy

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland

Oh i love you so.

Noni, you and i want the same thing but what im saying is look at it from their perspective as its their country and not ours.
Their country, their rules and are they going to change things for us ex-pat wannabes?


Remy

Originally Posted by noni

Hi Sweetie,

Bollox - Their country, their rules, let them set their rules out and stick to them.

Originally Posted by noni

BUT THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM IF THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SELL TO US IN THE BEGINNING.
The buck should stop with the Goans, and have they stopped them selling to FN's. NO

Originally Posted by noni

Hi Sweetie,

Bollox - Their country, their rules, let them set their rules out and stick to them.

Originally Posted by noni

I like this, Wen has got us all fired up and bloody well gone to bed!!!

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland

Ehhh Noni,

Remember FEMA?

How could they stop tourists from handing over money to scrupulous property developers? Cut their arms off?

They are only investigating this now and they still dont know how many tourists have breached FEMA by purchasing but it is us that have broke the law and breached FEMA not them. Dont forget, ignorance is no defence.

Most property developers havent broke any law because when it comes down to it many tourists dont own property just an expensive rental agreement.....the developer actually owns the property. I know Noni your case is differant than most but many out there only think they own property in Goa.

Its up to the purchaser to do his/her homework before buying anywhere abroad........and no government will do this for them. After all its not the Governments money at stake here.


Remy

Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland

To early for bed.......i think she has hit the noffi.
OMG another one bites the dust.

Originally Posted by noni

Silly she is in India