It's actually a better place to live in general if you don't have much money and have kids (imo).

It kind of is... the Citizenship Act says "shall grant", not "may grant".

The government is entitled to a reasonable period of time to determine whether an applicant meets the requirements. There are cases where the Federal Court has found a delay to be unreasonable and ordered the government to get on with it.

Note that the OP's idea of reasonable might not be the same as the courts'. The cases I can find involve delays of several years.

But you wait longer for citizenship in the US (at least those not married to citizens) - 5 years instead of three, and time before permanent residence is ignored instead of credited at 50%.

TN is really not all that great a visa/status for anything other than a short term assignment. You should consider yourself lucky to have permanent residence in Canada - why not try to make a success of living in Canada?

MPs only represent voters don't they?

Constitutionally, an MP should represent the whole constituency (riding in Canadian English). However this is an unwritten convention.

Yeah I agree. I heard people say H1B is better TN.

This is sort of cliche. No need to tell any PR s/he needs to feel this way or that way.

Trying to learn the system, but the more I learn about it the more I feel the door is closed to me. It doesn't matter whether I become a PR or a citizen. These lazy incompetent but overly patriotic Canadians are running my workplace into the ground. Canadian protectionism is ruining it. It's like inbreeding of a family of morons.

They should count themselves lucky you came along to put them right, ungrateful gits! If I were you I'd go and put them straight.

Cant say Ive seen any protectionism against PRs, assuming you have the relevant recognised qualifications.

There is some resistance against having to get a TWP, which I figure is only natural, but in my experience if a qualified candidates has PR no one could care less if they were Canadian citizens or not, especially if they already have had some canadian employer take a chance on them in the past.


Maybe your negative attitude isnt helping your cause? Something near 20% of all canadian residents are immigrants, born overseas. In Ontario its over 25%. If you factor in 1st generation canadians (those with immigrant parents) its more like 50% of the population, so this idea that "Canadians" are prejudiced against PRs seems unlikely to withstand too thorough an examination!

When you look at the stats unemployment for recent arrived immigrants is higher than the average, but that easily explained by the absence of the qualifications that canadian employers are expecting to see.

It also seems a superior attitude, which will not win any friends or respect in the workplace.

No doubt there will be some PRs with Citizen partners. Perhaps the partner should make the complaint.

I'd be one of them. Trouble is, my PR card renewal using the expedited process for booked travel, took 3 weeks from submission to me having my shiny new PR card. So I, or the Mrs, have little to complain about.

Yes, it is, it's a legal right granted to you by the Citizenship Act, if you comply with the application requirements.

Actually five years with at least six months presence, which is 2.5 years, whereas in Canada it's three years total in the last four years. Not only that but if you immigrate by marriage then it's only six months out of the last three years, so it's only 1.5 years total.

That isn't more restrictive, it's just different, and it has no bearing on how long the application process should take.

Your MP represents everyone in their riding. The only difference is that you don't get to vote for them (which I have to say is academic in Calgary anyway, they always vote tory). And I don't get the comments about your MP not caring, if you want citizenship so you get the right to vote, clearly you're interesting in exercising that right so you should have their full attention because that vote may very well depend on what they do next!

I don't think people are getting my point in posting this thread, they aren't just being really slow, it doesn't look to me as though they are actually processing applications.

The priority date for PR card renewals has been at February 8 for weeks and the only thing that changes is the processing time, which moves forward by a week every week. That means they aren't processing them. Or at a pace that is just fantastically slow. It's harder to tell with citizenship applications but they clearly are taking a very long time.

You're paying $50 or $200 for nothing. You don't get anything in return. That is clearly wrong. The only way to get anything done about it at this stage is to start moaning to MPs, imo.

The reason it takes six months in the US is precisely because it was taking years and people started moaning about it.