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Old Sep 10th 2009 | 2:54 am
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Originally Posted by iaink
There has to be more of a lot more pull to Canada than push from the UK in order for things to be worth the immense hassle and expense involved.
Sound advice

I know a couple of people who've hopped back and forth between the UK and Canada ... just can't seem to decide which is best ... costs them every time they move too.
 
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Crane operators will presumably do similar shifts anywhere in the world, and that seems to be the case going on what El_richo has said about his friend who does it in Canada.
The hours may even be worse in Canada. Distances are further and many contructions sites are across the province, even country for major firms, resulting in staying away.

When we first moved over I ended up working long hours (within regulations), staying a way longer and at home less, for less money than in the UK. I moved on in my career, ended up better off, with less hours, but it took many years to get there.
 
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Originally Posted by Flogger
I wouldn't take it personally. He posts similar crap all the time.
Seemed like good advice to me.

Originally Posted by el_richo
I apologised. Also, i think you'll agree that you did choose to pay a grand+ mortgage
I've no idea why you're apologizing.
 
Old Sep 10th 2009 | 3:20 am
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
I totally agree with Iaink, I don't think you're going to find what you're after in Canada as it seems to be your husband's choice of career that's the problem rather than the country. Crane operators will presumably do similar shifts anywhere in the world, and that seems to be the case going on what El_richo has said about his friend who does it in Canada.

Could you move to a cheaper area of the UK, or could he re-train and do something else that means he can work shorter hours? Both might help your situation, but are less drastic than moving abroad!

Also, on another practical note, if you have no money after the mortgage is paid each month, then can you definitely afford to emigrate? It's a very expensive business (costing us approx £25k for family of four). Another thing to think about anyway.

Hopefully this forum will help you make a decision and help you research. You need to be prepared for things like less holiday time, similar cost of living, and also find out about other things i.e. you mentioned crime (and knife crime in particular), but gun crime is just as bad in Canada - more murders per capita there actually. But a bit of research and hopefully it will help you decide, just bear in mind that nowhere is Utopia, and as Iaink wisely said, you'd be better off moving for the love of your new country rather than the dislike of the one you are in.

Stick around, and you will get loads of good info, and then hopefully you can decide where to go for a reccie trip next year to see if you like it.

Best of luck.
With respect,I would ignore the above.

Maybe in Vancouver cranedrivers work long hours but that doesn't mean its
the case throughout Canada (big place an all that).I have no idea what hours they work in NS,but they would be in a minority if they did work 70hour weeks. Also holiday MAY be 10 days but then it MAY not be.So Should not be written as fact.

OP If you are serious.You need to research some areas,book a reccie,and talk to potential employees to see where you would stand. good luck
 
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Originally Posted by Flogger
Maybe in Vancouver cranedrivers work long hours but that doesn't mean its
the case throughout Canada (big place an all that).I have no idea what hours they work in NS,but they would be in a minority if they did work 70hour weeks.
Don't think that NS or the rest of Canada is relevant though as the OP has already stated that they do not want cold winters (so NS probably not a great idea!) and that's why they are considering Vancouver vs Oz.

And yes, they may be lucky and get 3 weeks hols, but as 2 weeks is the norm for most people, thought it was worth mentioning as family time seems to be a big motivating factor.



Edit: OP - have just thought that we have a member who is also a crane operator and hoping to find a job in Vancouver, so might be worth sending __TJ__ a PM as hopefully they may be able to help you with some answers to your questions about the job over there.

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Old Sep 10th 2009 | 3:34 am
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Originally Posted by Flogger
With respect,I would ignore the above.
"With respect" which bits? ALL of it?

Originally Posted by christmasoompa

I don't think you're going to find what you're after in Canada as it seems to be your husband's choice of career that's the problem rather than the country. Crane operators will presumably do similar shifts anywhere in the world, and that seems to be the case going on what El_richo has said about his friend who does it in Canada.

Could you move to a cheaper area of the UK, or could he re-train and do something else that means he can work shorter hours? Both might help your situation, but are less drastic than moving abroad!
Thats certainly one option its hard to disagree with


Also, on another practical note, if you have no money after the mortgage is paid each month, then can you definitely afford to emigrate? It's a very expensive business (costing us approx £25k for family of four). Another thing to think about anyway.
Also true, if money is tight due to the mortgage you need to be aware that it costs money to sort out an international move


Hopefully this forum will help you make a decision and help you research. You need to be prepared for things like less holiday time, similar cost of living, and also find out about other things i.e. you mentioned crime (and knife crime in particular), but gun crime is just as bad in Canada - more murders per capita there actually. But a bit of research and hopefully it will help you decide, just bear in mind that nowhere is Utopia, and as Iaink wisely said, you'd be better off moving for the love of your new country rather than the dislike of the one you are in.
Which bit of this do you disagree with? Is this forum no good for finding out that stuff?

Stick around, and you will get loads of good info, and then hopefully you can decide where to go for a reccie trip next year to see if you like it.

Best of luck.
 
Old Sep 10th 2009 | 3:35 am
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
How is NS or the rest of Canada relevant? The OP has already stated that they do not want cold winters and that's why they are considering Vancouver vs Oz.

And yes, they may be lucky and get 3 weeks hols, but as 2 weeks is the norm for most people, thought it was worth mentioning as family time seems to be a big motivating factor.



Edit: OP - have just thought that we have a member who is also a crane operator and hoping to find a job in Vancouver, so might be worth sending __TJ__ a PM as hopefully they may be able to help you with some answers to your questions about the job over there.
Yawn.. Origanal question was Canada V Oz.Then side note saying Van seemed closest to uk weather wise. Where does she disregard the rest of Canada?
 
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Originally Posted by iaink
"With respect" which bits? ALL of it?

if money is tight due to the mortgage you need to be aware that it costs money to sort out an international move
Where does the op say that money is tight?
Does she not infact say the opposite?

Whats the problem,are crane drivers not good enough?
 
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Yawn.. Origanal question was Canada V Oz.Then side note saying Van seemed closest to uk weather wise. Where does she disregard the rest of Canada?
Well, the fact that she doesn't want anywhere with cold winters means that location wise, the options are fairly limited wouldn't you say?

Originally Posted by Flogger
Where does the op say that money is tight?
Erm, how about the bit where she said her husband 'is fed up working all the hours to pay off a mortgage with nothing left over'.

Anyway, let's not take this thread off course. Lots have given the OP their advice, which you may not agree with, but hopefully the OP can pick and choose the relevant bits and it will help in some way.


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Originally Posted by Flogger
Where does the op say that money is tight?
We both said "if" but it was rather implied that her OH was working 70hr weeks to bring home the bacon to service the 1000+ pound mortgage I thought....
Whats the problem,are crane drivers not good enough?
No problem at all with crane drivers, (Are they on "the list" by the way?)

Mostly around here they are owner operators.


Is that the only bit of that other post that should be ignored then?

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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Well, the fact that she doesn't want anywhere with cold winters means that location wise, the options are fairly limited wouldn't you say?



Erm, how about the bit where she said her husband 'is fed up working all the hours to pay off a mortgage with nothing left over'.

Anyway, let's not take this thread off course. Lots have given the OP their advice, which you may not agree with, but hopefully the OP can pick and choose the relevant bits and it will help in some way.

I wouldn't take it personally. Flogger posts similar crap all the time
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Seemed like good advice to me.


I've no idea why you're apologizing.
Y'know Alan, you're right. From this moment forth, i withdraw my apology
 
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Is that the only bit of that other post that should be ignored then?
No
 
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I guess we will leave it to the OP to decide how useful the various advice offered here is then.
 
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Originally Posted by iaink
I guess we will leave it to the OP to decide how useful the various advice offered here is then.
Well it's all personal opinion and conjecture.....................

and thats after you've got over the personal attacks and playground 'bitch slapping' that it (inevitably) degenerated into.
 


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