I am always pleased when such people are caught in their deception. I hope the UK Government comes after them for the total overpayment.

I am always pleased when people are so pious.

You are a good Christian.

Piety has sweet FA to do with it. They are thieves picking the pockets of the UK taxpayers, one of which I am not and from your described location, you are.
I can only assume from your comment you are/were in full agreement with the UK MPs' actions in the recent expenses scandal.

Steady there little terrier! A bite!

I never said I was in agreement to anything. I was merely moved to comment on you willingness to judge.

How come I'm picking the pocket of tax payers?

How come I'm picking the pocket of tax payers?

A taxpayer, not a pickpocket!

Oh. I thought it was a subtle dig at the people from this fair county.

Thieves is a little strong, they must have paid in to get the pension. The only reason they do not get the just return on their pension is that the government has decided to renage on the deal.

I cannot image a private pension being able to say...
"ahh, yes, so sorry but you are living in the wrong place so we will stop paying the agreed amount."

Nobody said to me when they started taking from MY earnings NI payments (insurance for healthcare, unemployment and pension).. Oh by the way, move to another country (which we don't have an agreement with) and we don't have to stick to the agreement we have with you. Another way of the government doing a Robert Maxwell.

I am planning to transfer all my movable pensions into my Canadian fund for the single reason that if anything happens to me, my wife has access to 100% in Canada whereas in the UK it depends on the scheme.

Agreed. And, if this european appeal goes through, it may turn out that said people have no longer comitted the crime auld yin is so incensed by.

They gained money by deception, so if thieves is not an apt description then fraudsters certainly is.

Nobody made any agreement with me when I started paying NI. It was deducted from my wages because my employer had to by law, and the same law dictates how and when it is paid out as a pension.

I am not trying to say it is fair, because it isn't. However, it was the law when I paid my NI, it was the law when I emigrated, and it is still the law now. Nobody has taken away my right to an index linked state pension. I have chosen to live in as country were it will not be indexed.

By all means, try and lobby the UK government to get the law changed. By all means complain. But, if you know you are not entitled to something by law, and you lie to get it, then you deserve to be caught and punished.

That seems sensible. When (if) the exchange rate improves a bit I think I will do the same.

Of course they would. It was against the law when they did it. They lied, pocketed the cash, and got caught.

You seemed to think that the UK renigged on it's pension payouts recently. This has been going on for at least the last 40 years, so please don't plead poverty for such bad policy.

The UK government has short change my wife and I by over 37,000 pounds since we started receiving it in 1995.

According to the Canadian Alliance of British Pensioners, the indexing of our pensions would represent only 1% of the annual NIC take. Not very much is it? A further point is that until you make a claim, most expats don't know that it is not indexed (I am talking about people who move here in their 20s, 30s & 40s etc).

I did (when I was 60 & my Hubby 69) but it was a gamble I was prepared to take to live close to my daughter & grandsons. There are a lot of people who simply cannot afford to so do. I count myself very lucky.: & feel very sorry for those who can't)

Valerie

Personally I have to say that when I found out that I could claim the UK pension back in the 70's I didn't give indexing a thought, in fact I was quite pleased that I would get any pension at all. The 2022.28 pounds per year we receive is better than none at all.

Over the last 14 years the exchange rate has been the biggest problem. At one time it was good at $2.25 to the pound unlike the $1.75 we are seeing today. Thats over a $1000/year difference.