Something a little wrong here, surely?
Apr 17th 2006, 5:05 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
My point however here is if you are going to say that the residents of the irish republic are reclaiming their version of the tricolour from the IRA (which started as a legitimate political organisation). Dont forget that the residents of the 'Mainland' need to reclaim the Union Flag and the red cross of St George back from the murdering b*st*rds linked to the orange men!!!
These things take time, although the Government authorities could do a lot more to encourage things. Not least putting a stop on loony councils and police officers who seem to think that flying a national flag constitutes incitement to racial hatred.
Apr 17th 2006, 5:07 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by acer rose
After living in Belfast for a while, I wouldn't personally fly a flag of any description. Take me for what I am/say/do, not just the region/country/continent of my birth!
Apr 17th 2006, 5:10 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by JAJ
Birthplace and nationality are not the same thing.
Apr 17th 2006, 5:12 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by Grah
So are you saying you find all those people in England that have other nationalities stickers are being impolite and really shouldn't display their origin.
Could come overas a racist statement ot some but I understand what your trying to say.
Could come overas a racist statement ot some but I understand what your trying to say.
yes i think its impolite-both flags wouldnt be
no its not racist, it might be countryist but not racist
Apr 17th 2006, 5:15 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by acer rose
Correct. And so?
You were the one making an issue about being associated with the country etc where you were born. I was pointing out that no-one is obliged to give allegiance to their birthplace.
Apr 17th 2006, 5:29 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by JAJ
You were the one making an issue about being associated with the country etc where you were born. I was pointing out that no-one is obliged to give allegiance to their birthplace.
I have no problem being associated with my country of birth or nationality. I have no problem with other people who choose to leave the country of their birth and never look back. I was simply pointing out that because people tend to make judgements about identifiable groups (whether from accent, attire or appearance) rather than indivduals, I would not choose to fly flags and immediately create an association in someone else's mind over which I have no control.
Apr 17th 2006, 8:09 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
This a great thread!
I and my wife live not 20 minutes drive from St. George, NB.
Next weekend (as last year), the towns main street will be full of flags flying from street light posts etc.
The town of St. George, NB - celebrates "Dragon Day" by remembering it`s connection to "Old England".
This is yet another wonderful bonus for my wife and I living in this area - as we speak fondly of times past in ENGLAND - NOT BRITAIN as any old bugger can be BRITISH.
The UK flag I believe is now - a rag coloured blue and consists of a circular design featuring golden stars!!!
I and my wife live not 20 minutes drive from St. George, NB.
Next weekend (as last year), the towns main street will be full of flags flying from street light posts etc.
The town of St. George, NB - celebrates "Dragon Day" by remembering it`s connection to "Old England".
This is yet another wonderful bonus for my wife and I living in this area - as we speak fondly of times past in ENGLAND - NOT BRITAIN as any old bugger can be BRITISH.
The UK flag I believe is now - a rag coloured blue and consists of a circular design featuring golden stars!!!
Apr 17th 2006, 8:46 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by steve of 5-0
The UK flag I believe is now - a rag coloured blue and consists of a circular design featuring golden stars!!!
Apr 17th 2006, 8:53 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by dbd33
I'm not aware of any specifically Canadian customs, I have tapped a tree for syrup, is that what you mean ?
Originally Posted by dbd33
That flag has not been in common used by anyone but far right political parties for decades until very recently, there isn't a recent historical precedent for flying it.
Originally Posted by dbd33
I don't have one to hand, what do you think he or she would say ?
Originally Posted by dbd33
I'm not saying ban anything, I just think you should be embarassed to own such a flag.
Originally Posted by dbd33
I don't need a symbol of England but if you want one pick something neutal, don't try to change a symbol in current use to have the meaning you choose. How about a square steering wheel ?
Goodbye.
Apr 17th 2006, 8:56 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by Grah
Fortunately I'm not you, fancy being so ignorant to tell someone to be embraased by their heritage.
Apr 17th 2006, 11:07 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by dbd33
trolling .
Apr 18th 2006, 12:24 am
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by Grah
edited to reflect true content.
Apr 18th 2006, 4:25 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by dbd33
trolling. trolling trolling
Apr 18th 2006, 6:48 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by koogar
not sure if it's connected, but some councils in England have actually announced that anyone flying the St. George flag for St. Georges' day without permission will be fined. You seem to be able to fly any other nations flag here though without a problem.
Seems very odd to me
Seems very odd to me
Apr 18th 2006, 7:01 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
The official C of E website ... note the flag of St George .. flown on every C of E church in the UK .. hardly a racist symbol, is it?
http://www.churchnewspaper.com/
http://www.churchnewspaper.com/