Something a little wrong here, surely?
Apr 18th 2006, 7:04 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by 1066
The official C of E website ... note the flag of St George .. flown on every C of E church in the UK .. hardly a racist symbol, is it?
http://www.churchnewspaper.com/
http://www.churchnewspaper.com/
Here are some pictures of C of E churches.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~mosmd/englandphotos.htm
No flags. No burning crosses either. If the C of E has any relevance today it's not on issues such as racism. The congregation is predominantly white because it's predominantly old people, it reflects the demographics of England in the post-war period rather than England today, it's not racist, not anti-racist, not relevant really.
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Apr 18th 2006, 7:12 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by 1066
The official C of E website ... note the flag of St George .. flown on every C of E church in the UK .. hardly a racist symbol, is it?
http://www.churchnewspaper.com/
http://www.churchnewspaper.com/
Apr 18th 2006, 7:21 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by dbd33
I don't believe the flag is flown on every C of E church but regardless, I don't see the connection between the church and racism.
Here are some pictures of C of E churches.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~mosmd/englandphotos.htm
No flags. No burning crosses either. If the C of E has any relevance today it's not on issues such as racism. The congregation is predominantly white because it's predominantly old people, it reflects the demographics of England in the post-war period rather than England today, it's not racist, not anti-racist, not relevant really.
Here are some pictures of C of E churches.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~mosmd/englandphotos.htm
No flags. No burning crosses either. If the C of E has any relevance today it's not on issues such as racism. The congregation is predominantly white because it's predominantly old people, it reflects the demographics of England in the post-war period rather than England today, it's not racist, not anti-racist, not relevant really.
Pretty pictures though, I miss that crusty smell of decaying old cruds that permeates through those building.
It says it all when the examples of "popular" usage are dying institutions like the Church.
Apr 18th 2006, 7:59 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by rgilbert
I don't understand how Council's could stop or fine people from flying a flag? I work for a Council and don't know how this could be undertaken as you are not breaking the law??? I'm confused. 
the flag of st george is the anglican flag- i just looked that up- this is apparently different to the english flag.
a red cross on white is also the renaissance art symbol of the resurrection.
Apr 19th 2006, 12:34 am
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by rgilbert
I don't understand how Council's could stop or fine people from flying a flag? I work for a Council and don't know how this could be undertaken as you are not breaking the law??? I'm confused.
Correct - councils don't have the power to impose fines (although some people think they do, and some councils might dearly like to).
Apr 19th 2006, 7:14 am
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by Hudman
WTF... The issue is the usage by the far right, which is undeniable. This thread is in danger of endind up like the "block heater" debate,i.e. going round in circles.
Apr 19th 2006, 5:51 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by 1066
This thread has been going around in circles for 6 pages .. have you only just noticed? ..
Well, you can alwyas opt for...Not following it!
I think the subject is a valid one. I once read a book by an author of Linguistical studies by a name "Lions" - can't remember the initials, whose theory stated that "the Language is rooted in Culture and the Culture is rooted in Religion. So, if this was true political correctness on its way to a multicultural society would inevitably need to try at some point to do away with Religion as well. Hence the problem with the crosses: Religious as well as national.
Apr 19th 2006, 5:55 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by Gezza
Well, you can alwyas opt for...Not following it!
I think the subject is a valid one. I once read a book by an author of Linguistical studies by a name "Lions" - can't remember the initials, whose theory stated that "the Language is rooted in Culture and the Culture is rooted in Religion. So, if this was true political correctness on its way to a multicultural society would inevitably need to try at some point to do away with Religion as well. Hence the problem with the crosses: Religious as well as national.
I think the subject is a valid one. I once read a book by an author of Linguistical studies by a name "Lions" - can't remember the initials, whose theory stated that "the Language is rooted in Culture and the Culture is rooted in Religion. So, if this was true political correctness on its way to a multicultural society would inevitably need to try at some point to do away with Religion as well. Hence the problem with the crosses: Religious as well as national.
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Apr 19th 2006, 6:01 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by Gezza
Well, you can alwyas opt for...Not following it!
I think the subject is a valid one. I once read a book by an author of Linguistical studies by a name "Lions" - can't remember the initials, whose theory stated that "the Language is rooted in Culture and the Culture is rooted in Religion. So, if this was true political correctness on its way to a multicultural society would inevitably need to try at some point to do away with Religion as well. Hence the problem with the crosses: Religious as well as national.
I think the subject is a valid one. I once read a book by an author of Linguistical studies by a name "Lions" - can't remember the initials, whose theory stated that "the Language is rooted in Culture and the Culture is rooted in Religion. So, if this was true political correctness on its way to a multicultural society would inevitably need to try at some point to do away with Religion as well. Hence the problem with the crosses: Religious as well as national.
Him ?
Apr 19th 2006, 7:38 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by Gezza
Well, you can alwyas opt for...Not following it!
I think the subject is a valid one. I once read a book by an author of Linguistical studies by a name "Lions" - can't remember the initials, whose theory stated that "the Language is rooted in Culture and the Culture is rooted in Religion. So, if this was true political correctness on its way to a multicultural society would inevitably need to try at some point to do away with Religion as well. Hence the problem with the crosses: Religious as well as national.
I think the subject is a valid one. I once read a book by an author of Linguistical studies by a name "Lions" - can't remember the initials, whose theory stated that "the Language is rooted in Culture and the Culture is rooted in Religion. So, if this was true political correctness on its way to a multicultural society would inevitably need to try at some point to do away with Religion as well. Hence the problem with the crosses: Religious as well as national.
Apr 20th 2006, 11:08 am
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by dbd33
Yeah, that's the man!
Apr 20th 2006, 11:09 am
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by dbd33
You haven't defined political correctness yet so it doesn't help to again make reference to it. Refer posts 14 and 15.
Apr 20th 2006, 11:15 am
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by Gezza
I haven't but I havn't forgotten either. Working on it still!
Apr 20th 2006, 2:23 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by dbd33
I'm not sure about that part of your posts but I think you confuse mono-culture with multi-culture. A multi-culture must involve multiple systems of belief and necessarily entails friction between them. Stamping out superstitions and the related icons isn't part of building a multi-culture.
Apr 20th 2006, 2:35 pm
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Re: Something a little wrong here, surely?
Originally Posted by Gezza
if you place lots of different religions side by side it is quite easy to predict that it must lead to the gradual demise of all.
Think about it, can you give an example of a major religion that no longer exists ?