McCartney / Seal Cull
Mar 3rd 2006 | 11:59 pm
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas
And here I thought the 'x' in your username was some sort of health care reference!
Mar 4th 2006 | 12:17 am
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
I think its odd that the linda macartney vegetarian food range mimics the favour of meat. If you dont eat meat and hope to live in a world where no-one eats meat then who is going to be able to say what meat tastes like? I dont think i have expresed that very well, but it seems like a copout to me.
i was a veggie for 15 years till i broke some bones and decided that this omnivorous digestive system of mine needed some meat. So now we eat meat a couple of times a week, we dont buy cheap factory produced meat. just meat from animals that havent been factory farmed. Any dairy and egg products we eat are organic. Thats my way of contributing to the planets life cycle. I firmly believe that if we didnt eat meat then there wouldnt be any pigs or sheep, cows yes but no male calves, they would all(mostly) be killed at birth as unproductive. My opinion is that macca and mrs belong to that group that have lost sight of the whole picture and just see the sentiment not the reality
i was a veggie for 15 years till i broke some bones and decided that this omnivorous digestive system of mine needed some meat. So now we eat meat a couple of times a week, we dont buy cheap factory produced meat. just meat from animals that havent been factory farmed. Any dairy and egg products we eat are organic. Thats my way of contributing to the planets life cycle. I firmly believe that if we didnt eat meat then there wouldnt be any pigs or sheep, cows yes but no male calves, they would all(mostly) be killed at birth as unproductive. My opinion is that macca and mrs belong to that group that have lost sight of the whole picture and just see the sentiment not the reality
Mar 4th 2006 | 1:30 am
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
Originally Posted by London7
i watched larry king, danny williams was made to look a real incompetent fool. His veins on his neck were sticking out he was so panic striken! heather was amazing as ever,what a great woman.
hope the boycott of canadian seafood gets bigger now, and hopefully this massacre will be in the history books next year, along with other brutal practices that were once acceptable, ie bair baiting, fox hunting.
just a question guys...theres lots of nasty comments/insults on this site......my question to all of you critising heather and paul....what do you do to make the world a better place? whether for animals or humans.
me? i am up at the crack of dawn tomorrow to volunteeer.you?
hope the boycott of canadian seafood gets bigger now, and hopefully this massacre will be in the history books next year, along with other brutal practices that were once acceptable, ie bair baiting, fox hunting.
just a question guys...theres lots of nasty comments/insults on this site......my question to all of you critising heather and paul....what do you do to make the world a better place? whether for animals or humans.
me? i am up at the crack of dawn tomorrow to volunteeer.you?
LOL!!! Totally hiliarious!!!
By the way, most people who are retired down here volunteer, but it doesn't make their views on the seal hunt any more important.
At least Paul and Heather could have been honest enough to concede that they are opposed to all hunting when Williams cornered them on the issue - but they were afraid to talk about that.
Meanwhile the systematic torture of animals in labs in the Uk continues unabated whilst there is technology that was developed in Canada to prevent such barbarity.
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Mar 4th 2006 | 2:32 am
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
Originally Posted by oceanMDX
Meanwhile the systematic torture of animals in labs in the Uk continues unabated whilst there is technology that was developed in Canada to prevent such barbarity.
Mar 4th 2006 | 2:46 am
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
Originally Posted by dbd33
The claim is improbable; the UK has the world's most stringent standards for the treatment of laboratory animals, if a process is cruel the work is exported. The petty nationalism is misplaced; Canada is not more concerned with animal cruelty than other countries, that one developer of technology worked in Canada is neither here nor there.
On the other hand, the Draize eye test is still used in the UK, when Canadian technology has rendered it obsolete. Perhaps Paul and his spoiled little princess should be protesting that fact.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draize_test
The Canadian method:
http://cclrserv2.uwaterloo.ca/sivaklabs/Scantox.html
... and by the way, Dr. Sivak isn't just one developer who worked in Canada, he is a Canadian and has always worked in Canada and continues to do so and his work was funded by Canadian Goverments and he has a whole team of Canadian researchers working with him (check out his web site more thoroughly) .... he also taught me ocular anatomy.
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Mar 4th 2006 | 5:43 am
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
Originally Posted by oceanMDX
Oh don't get your knickers all in a knot. I was using hyperbole just like the anti-sealing protesters use hyperbole... annoying isn't it?
On the other hand, the Draize eye test is still used in the UK, when Canadian technology has rendered it obsolete. Perhaps Paul and his spoiled little princess should be protesting that fact.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draize_test
The Canadian method:
http://cclrserv2.uwaterloo.ca/sivaklabs/Scantox.html
... and by the way, Dr. Sivak isn't just one developer who worked in Canada, he is a Canadian and has always worked in Canada and continues to do so and his work was funded by Canadian Goverments and he has a whole team of Canadian researchers working with him (check out his web site more thoroughly) .... he also taught me ocular anatomy.
On the other hand, the Draize eye test is still used in the UK, when Canadian technology has rendered it obsolete. Perhaps Paul and his spoiled little princess should be protesting that fact.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draize_test
The Canadian method:
http://cclrserv2.uwaterloo.ca/sivaklabs/Scantox.html
... and by the way, Dr. Sivak isn't just one developer who worked in Canada, he is a Canadian and has always worked in Canada and continues to do so and his work was funded by Canadian Goverments and he has a whole team of Canadian researchers working with him (check out his web site more thoroughly) .... he also taught me ocular anatomy.
Mar 4th 2006 | 5:47 am
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
Originally Posted by dbd33
I'm really quite unknotted.
It sounds like a procedure that should be generally adopted. Were you/are you a (medical) doctor ?
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Mar 4th 2006 | 6:04 am
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
Originally Posted by oceanMDX
I'm a retired optometrist - retired at the old age of 40.
Mar 4th 2006 | 6:07 am
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
I have several avocations and travel all over whenever I want... live isn't too bad.
Mar 4th 2006 | 6:13 am
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
Originally Posted by oceanMDX
I have several avocations and travel all over whenever I want... live isn't too bad.
Mar 4th 2006 | 6:23 am
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
Originally Posted by dbd33
I could be a campaigner for cruelty to animals.
Mar 4th 2006 | 8:58 am
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
Originally Posted by oceanMDX
I just saw the McCartneys on Larry King (CNN). Larry let the McCartneys speak for about 55 minutes in the 1-hour long show. Danny Williams only spoke (uninterrupted) for about 5 minutes. For much of the time while Williams tried to speak, Mrs. McCartney was speaking over him with her propaganda - and she was very rude and very hypocritical.
As for Paul, when Williams invited him to come to Newfoundland to learn more about the salient issues regarding the seal hunt, he replied that he was already in Newfoundland and saw all that he could. Williams had to explain to Paul that he was actually in Prince Edward Island (another province) and not in Newfoundland!
I had a good laugh at the end when Williams told the McCartneys that they are being used and Mrs. McCartney replied, "we are not being used".
Paul looked like not too bad a guy who you could almost reason with, but his wife is just a bitch - beautiful, but still a bitch who you can't reason with. Williams is obviously a very smart man; too bad he was barely allowed to speak.
As for Paul, when Williams invited him to come to Newfoundland to learn more about the salient issues regarding the seal hunt, he replied that he was already in Newfoundland and saw all that he could. Williams had to explain to Paul that he was actually in Prince Edward Island (another province) and not in Newfoundland!
I had a good laugh at the end when Williams told the McCartneys that they are being used and Mrs. McCartney replied, "we are not being used".
Paul looked like not too bad a guy who you could almost reason with, but his wife is just a bitch - beautiful, but still a bitch who you can't reason with. Williams is obviously a very smart man; too bad he was barely allowed to speak.
Mar 4th 2006 | 9:15 am
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
Originally Posted by flashman
I understand that this episode may have done the McCartney's and their cause a lot of damage because of their ignorant arrogance.
Mar 4th 2006 | 10:15 am
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
Originally Posted by flashman
I understand that this episode may have done the McCartney's and their cause a lot of damage because of their ignorant arrogance.
Mar 4th 2006 | 10:54 am
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Re: McCartney / Seal Cull
I agree....I think they blew it! They really didn't have their facts straight! I watched the interview on ATV with our local broadcaster...and Paul didn't shut up but really didn't say anything that was of interest. Our local broadcaster called him Sir Paul McCartney but Paul Mc Cartney call the Prime Minister...............Steve harper...really casual! No I do think he screwed up on this one! He didn't come prepared...and there isn't anyone that is going to stop something that has been going on for as long as 500 yrs! Paul even referred to the fact his ancestors were in the slave trade from Liverpool all those years ago and tried to compare the seal hunt to that! It was an intersting interview but not really an interview as Paul would not let the news guy speak!
