Originally Posted by Garfielduk

Yes of course they can otherwise they would surely not reach the points target !

Originally Posted by Cowtown

Then explain to me why when they get to the citizenship exam they need an interpretor. Their grasp of English and French is insufficient to understand the instructions given! Not surprisingly they also failed the test which has to be taken without the services of an interpretor!

There are other groups of immigrants outside the business and skilled worker classes.

Originally Posted by Calgal

Trust me - you won't!

I didn't go back for ten years after moving here - I kept getting attacks of home sickness, and when I finally got there, I wish I'd done it sooner; it would have cured me quicker!

But maybe it won't be like that for you - we're all different, after all

Now I'm back in a 'wanting to go home phase' again, but for much more complicated personal reasons. I still know deep down that it's not the answer, though. I've changed too much as a result of the experience of being away so long, and it will never be the same.......

Originally Posted by Londonuck

I've been back here for 2 years and i gotta tell you its been the most awful 2 years. Once you're back working and the things that annoy you about Canada have worn off its tough. I was just sitting on a very packed and graffiti riddled 59 bus, going over Waterloo Bridge, looking at the usual miserable angry faces wondering what it is that makes us want to come back here. The only thing that makes living here slightly bearable is the cheap flights around Europe. But doesnt that speak volumes, you only enjoy the place when you're not here.

Originally Posted by Londonuck

I've been back here for 2 years and i gotta tell you its been the most awful 2 years. Once you're back working and the things that annoy you about Canada have worn off its tough. I was just sitting on a very packed and graffiti riddled 59 bus, going over Waterloo Bridge, looking at the usual miserable angry faces wondering what it is that makes us want to come back here. The only thing that makes living here slightly bearable is the cheap flights around Europe. But doesnt that speak volumes, you only enjoy the place when you're not here.

Originally Posted by Sean Boxer

We just had the Thanksgiving 'Fete' down the road and there was a lot of 'Native American' stuff going on which was very interesting. I got talking to one of them and it turns out he was a 'kind of' Town Crier, in fact he had just been to the World Town Crier contest somewhere in England, he didn't have a bell but a 'Talking Stick'. He's the busiest official town crier in the world and has met just about every world leader in the erm, world.

I had a look at his wigwam- very nice, it was a lot taller than I imagined but still not a lot of room if you're standing up.

Originally Posted by Cowtown

Then explain to me why when they get to the citizenship exam they need an interpretor. Their grasp of English and French is insufficient to understand the instructions given! Not surprisingly they also failed the test which has to be taken without the services of an interpretor!

There are other groups of immigrants outside the business and skilled worker classes.

Originally Posted by Garfielduk

Well if they are getting to Canada through the groups that do have points qualification then I would say the process is flawed, either CHC are not checking properly or the certificates of language are counterfeit (that's assuming the exam process is working correctly)

Originally Posted by Canada2006

I applied via Québec and indicated on the form that my French is really fab... OH looked at me and said "hmmm". I never had to prove this... so I could have had zero French and still been granted my CSQ...

Originally Posted by Garfielduk

You have proved my point then

Originally Posted by Garfielduk

Well if they are getting to Canada through the groups that do have points qualification then I would say the process is flawed, either CHC are not checking properly or the certificates of language are counterfeit (that's assuming the exam process is working correctly)

Originally Posted by dingbat

I was the only person with English as a first language at my citizenship ceremony. There were five different interpreters in the room. The test took me about two minutes and I left. I know of people who have had to appear in front of a citizenship judge to demonstrate their knowledge of Canada. They all took interpreters. What incentive is there to learn either official language if you intend to live within your culture of origin with family?

Originally Posted by Garfielduk

Well, now in Britain you cannot get Citizenship unless you have a good grasp of English and passed ESOL Tests and also know some general knowledge about the country, etc and I wholeheartedly agree with this although the knowledge test leaves a little to be desired in terms of the questions and answers.

Originally Posted by Garfielduk

Well, now in Britain you cannot get Citizenship unless you have a good grasp of English and passed ESOL Tests and also know some general knowledge about the country, etc and I wholeheartedly agree with this although the knowledge test leaves a little to be desired in terms of the questions and answers.

Originally Posted by kt0157

The trouble is the Governments that do this usually ask some crusty professor or some dingbat committee to write the questions. The Canadian test is full of rubbish that most Canadian-born citizens would fail (like the dates of various constitutional events). These tests are a waste of time and only prove that you crammed the night before.

K.