If you don't believe me, look it up in the CFC Firearms Reference Table - most models of handgun are listed as prohibited.

That you can buy handguns that are not prohibited isn't at issue.

Also created the world's largest market for handguns with a 106mm barrel.

Prohibition means import and manufacture is prohibited, and you're in a "grandfathered" class, i.e. you can transfer them to other people who had one before they were prohibited.

Prohibited handguns are the only ones you are actually allowed to still shoot though, you can't get an ATT to take other types of prohibited firearms to the range so they're basically wall hangers at that point. If it were legal to hang them on a wall, which it isn't. A very small percentage of the prohibited long guns can be legally taken temporarily (but not permanently) into the US, so if you have one of those, you could shoot it in the US I suppose.

If by some miracle you get an ATC for personal protection against people (as opposed to wildlife), then you are exempt from the prohibition. On handguns at least.

No, foreign licences of any description carry zero weight in Canada at all. Which is why you can get non-resident licences. You have to take the tests. They're not hard, like I said if you have any familiarity with guns and learn what the acronyms: "ACTS" and "PROVE" stand for, you will pass.

Note that some gun clubs (especially in Ontario and Québec) also place no weight on the Canadian tests and require you to do a probationary period, having your British FAC might sway them on that point, but probably not. The reason for the probationary period is because OPP and QPP are silly in the way they issue ATTs. The club has to apply on your behalf (which I don't think is legal) and the CFO makes the ATT co-terminus with your club membership. Also in Québec they will not allow the discharge of restricted and prohibited firearms outdoors, only on indoor ranges.

I seem to recall someone telling me NS did it the same way as Ontario as well.

In many ways the gun laws here are better than in the US, for example you can mail order guns (with a licence obviously) which you can't do in the US (not interstate anyway and even intrastate it's a faff). Plus also you can for example buy a gun in a gun store in BC, but if you live in Montana you can only buy long guns from a store in say, Idaho.

There are lots of stupid laws in Canada though, but there are lots of stupid gun laws everywhere imx.

Lots of stupid gun owners as well

Lots of stupid customs officers, especially when it comes to guns, I could be on here all day with stories.

so when, and i mean when i get my pr i can bring over my rifles and section 1 shot gun, sit the test and also join a local gun club as a probation member for the standard 3 months. Then get the .50 desert eagle(used this in the states and boy what a gun

It's not like in GB where it's three months by law, it's whatever the club thinks is enough to make them happy and satisfy the CFO. Usually it's a minimum number of visits.

As soon as you've got your licence with a restricted endorsement you can buy restricted firearms (mostly handguns), you just can't use them if you're in Ontario, Québec or Nova Scotia (possibly the other maritime provinces, I'm not sure) because they won't issue you an ATT to take them to the range. They'll issue a temporary one so you can take the gun home though (usually).

Or move out west.

I've never heard of any probationary periods in Alberta, one thing to note though in that if you want to buy restricted firearms you must be a member of a gun club otherwise the chief firearms officer won't transfer them into your name.

As for the .50 desert eagle, very expensive here, between $2k - $3k I think. But what a gun!!

As could I as well
I admit the legislation is somewhat a mess and needs a total revamp to make things simpler. Dont even get started on the replica firearm issues.

Can I bring my AK47 or Uzi to Canada when I go duck hunting?
Im going to be bow hunting is it ok if I bring my 9mm Glock
etc etc etc
P.S. Wasnt implying you were stoopid but we do live above the USA
Would you care to comment on if this person is fully in control of her weapon or the carry method or the fact there is no magazine attached to the weapon
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ing-a-gun.html

I have to say CBSA are one of the better agencies because they get proper training on the subject, although I've run into a few rum types at Pearson.

But American and various European agencies, OMG.

I never really understand how CBSA deals with realistic imitations, it's pretty clear that the airsoft guns are illegal, the CFC website gives various examples, but CBSA seem to let them in because I've seen them for sale here and in large enough quantities they couldn't have just smuggled them across.

Im sure you have read this link as this is our Memorandum that we have to follow regarding importation/exportation of firearms which on completing is clear as mud
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publicati...9-13-2-eng.pdf

(b) Most airsoft guns and certain types of paintball guns or markers are considered replica firearms. This is because the muzzle velocity of the projectile does not generally cause serious bodily harm and their external features are clearly designed to resemble a specific and readily identifiable make and model of a firearm. The jurisprudence has established that to consider a firearm within the meaning of s. 2 of the Criminal Code, an airsoft gun must have a muzzle velocity in excess of 124 meters per second (407 feet per second). Therefore, due to their strong resemblance to real firearms and their lack of capacity to cause serious bodily injury, most airsoft guns (and some paintball guns) are generally considered replica firearms.

Exception: The following goods generally do not meet the definition of prohibited weapon, and thus do not fall under tariff item 9898.00.00. Their misuse may nonetheless be punishable under other laws:
(a) an air gun or BB/pellet gun that resembles a real make and model of a firearm may not be a replica firearm if it is an “uncontrolled” firearm (see “Uncontrolled” firearms).

“Uncontrolled” firearms
5. “Uncontrolled” firearms are those devices that, although falling within the definition of a firearm in the Criminal Code, are exempt from specific legal requirements of the Firearms Act and its regulations, as well as from other legislative provisions. “Uncontrolled” firearms do not fall under Tariff item No. 9898.00.00, and are generally admissible into Canada. “Uncontrolled” firearms should not be subdivided into any of the non-restricted, restricted, or prohibited classes. The following types of firearms are deemed “uncontrolled”:

Note: The term air gun is a colloquial term referring to BB or pellet guns. Such guns operate either as spring-powered, gas-powered, or electrically powered. If the muzzle velocity of the air gun is less than 152.4 mps (500 fps)/5.7 joules but still able to cause serious bodily injury to a person, it may be considered an “uncontrolled” firearm. Most airsoft guns and certain types of paintball guns are considered replica firearms (see “Prohibited Devices” below).

Replica firearms
50. “Replica firearm” is defined as any device that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, a firearm, and that itself is not a firearm, but does not include any such device that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, an antique firearm.
51. For a device to be a replica firearm it must meet all three requirements:
(a) it cannot be a firearm, meaning it does not discharge a projectile with sufficient energy to cause serious bodily injury or death to a person. If the device is a firearm, then it cannot be a replica firearm (and vice versa);
(b) it must resemble exactly, or with near precision, a real existing firearm of an identifiable make and model. With respect visual examination, note that the maximum observing distance is one at which the equivalent make and model of the firearm can be identified. This distance will vary from one firearm make to the next. For example: A Luger pistol has a very distinctive silhouette as compared to other makes and is therefore more readily identified from further away. The examination of the object is something more than casual, but less than detailed. The device does not need to be so close that markings are identifiable; and
(c) it cannot be designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, an antique firearm (see Antique Firearms above).


Now I need a drink

So can i bring in my Glock17 gas gun or not??????? It exactly resembles a Glock 17.


It won't be coming with me but as an example would it be allowed? I'm confused.

I concur