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Old Jul 6th 2012 | 5:40 am
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Originally Posted by uknzbc
Hi

We have a shotgun and a 2.2 rifle we want to bring over from NZ (sentimental so we really want to keep them). Does anyone know the easiest route to import and if we can carry them with us?

Appreciate any replies.

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Sounds like they're non-restricted firearms so it's pretty straightforward, especially as registration is now scrapped.

If you happen to be visiting Canada prior to moving, by far the simplest method is to complete the firearm licence safety test while you are here (very similar to the NZ one), and then you can apply for a licence (Canada allows non-resident licences). Most gun clubs offer it. http://makinit.ca/CFSC_Manual.pdf - basically as long as you know what "ACTS" and "PROVE" stand for, you will pass.

Once you have the licence, it's basically just a case of putting them on your B4 personal effects form and bringing them with you, probably in your personal luggage as the removal company might not want to.

Alternatively you can take the declaration route, which is basically a temporary firearm licence issued at the POE, then you have to apply for a licence within 60 days I think it is. http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...e/pdfs/909.pdf

Some of the MSSA .22s are prohibited or restricted in Canada, but seeing as they're class E in NZ I'm assuming that isn't what you've got.
 
Old Jul 6th 2012 | 5:46 am
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Originally Posted by Oink
The government has no right to regulate what goes on in private bedrooms. It's political correctness gone mad.
I suspect the law is only enforced when the pervs in the RCMP want some new toys to photograph themselves with so they can publish them on the internet.
 
Old Jul 6th 2012 | 5:52 am
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Originally Posted by dgagitw
Wow, nunchakus are illegal in Canada, I learn something new every day. What's the origin of that one?
Because they're offensive weapons, so they were prohibited as prohibited weapons. This was the logic used to ban handguns with a barrel length less than 105mm, because apparently they have no legitimate sporting use.

The one that most people aren't aware of is the prohibition on realistic imitation firearms, which are classed as a prohibited device. This is why when you go into Canadian Tire, the airsoft guns they have for sale are made from transparent plastic.

I've spoken to lots of police officers even who aren't aware of it.

However the CO2 pellet guns are legal, because they're classed as firearms, but firearms below the 500 fps/4.2 ft/lb power limit so they don't require a licence. People call them replicas but they're not, they're firearms in their own right so they're outside of the prohibition. Bizarrely if they were less powerful, they would be prohibited assuming they look like a firearm.

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Old Jul 6th 2012 | 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by Steve_
Because they're offensive weapons, so they were prohibited as prohibited weapons. This was the logic used to ban handguns with a barrel length less than 105mm, because apparently they have no legitimate sporting use.
The main problem with this kind of law isn't that it outlaws legitimate use, it's that it's not going to stop the kind of people that the law is actually supposed to stop. You know, criminals.
 
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Originally Posted by Steve_
Because they're offensive weapons, so they were prohibited as prohibited weapons.
So why aren't tonfas banned too then? I can think of all sorts of offensive weapons that aren't on that list, the question is why nunchakus specifically are banned? Aside from the utter pointlessness of banning the importation of something that can be made so easily, I'm genuinely curious as to why they were singled out.
 
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Originally Posted by jericho
Bottom line is it's a ridiculous law that someone probably dreamt up in the 70's when it was "cool" to have nunchakus.
Seems likely. I bet Bruce Lee is partly to blame too.
 
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Here are some more prohibited waepons to comment on

21. The definition of prohibited weapon has two components: 1) ‘Paragraph (a) weapons, being automatic, centrifugal, or gravity knives; and 2) ‘Paragraph (b) weapons, being those laid out explicitly in the Criminal Code subsection 84(1) Regulations, Part 3. Section 84(1) of the Criminal Code states that a prohibited weapon is:
(a) a knife that has a blade that opens automatically by gravity or centrifugal force or by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in or attached to the handle of the knife; or
(b) any weapon, other than a firearm, that is prescribed to be a prohibited weapon.

(a) Automatic knife (switchblade)
b) Centrifugal knife (folding knife, butterfly knife, balisong knife)
(c) Gravity knife
(d) Device with incapacitating liquid/spray/powder
Nunchaku sticks (a.k.a. Liang Ji Gun/ Ee Cheol Bong/ Nisetsuken)
Shuriken/Shaken (Throwing Stars)
Manrikigusari/Kusari (Fighting Chain)
Bladed finger ring
Device with incapacitating electric charge shorter than 480mm
(a) cross-bow for one-handed use – designed or altered to be aimed and fired by the action of one hand, whether or not it has been redesigned or subsequently altered to be aimed and fired by the action of both hands; or
(b) cross-bow 500mm or shorter – it has a length not exceeding 500 mm. The length includes the stirrup.
“Constant Companion” (Belt buckle knife)
34. Any knife commonly known as a “push-dagger” that is designed in such a fashion that the handle is placed perpendicular to the main cutting edge of the blade (or blades) and any other similar device other than the aboriginal “ulu” knife. “Kit Rae Fang of Baelin” knives are considered push-daggers.
Device shorter than 30cm with concealed knife blade (e.g., knife comb)
Blowgun (Yaqua Blowgun)
Morning Star
45. The device commonly known as a “Morning Star” and any similar device consisting of one or more balls of metal or other heavy material studded with spikes and connected to a handle by a length of chain, rope or other flexible material.
Brass knuckles
Kiyoga Baton/Steel Cobra

These are all defined as Prohibited Weapons as per the Criminal Code.
Im not saying they all should be but guess what if I find them on you I will seize them and your vehicle and its currently $1000 per weapon so if you have 5 x prohibited weapons in your car then its gonna cost you 5 grand to get your car back, arrested and then further prosecuted in court.

BTW Im not being aggressive just pointing out the facts and current legislation. Most of these are indeed martial art type weapons and while they have a use in a dojo or other setting do you really want to see these on sale in a Pawn shop for any member of the public to buy.
Any item can be made into a weapon I agree but the Govt NOT ME decided to make these items illegal.
 
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So why aren't tonfas banned too then? I can think of all sorts of offensive weapons that aren't on that list

if an officer has reasonable suspicion, anything which they determine can be used as a weapon or to manufacture weapons can be seized and the person arrested. if your not going to play baseball, and your wandering around with a bat you can be arrested. in british law anyway. i assume canadian law was based on ours.
 
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Originally Posted by wardy_1990
if an officer has reasonable suspicion, anything which they determine can be used as a weapon or to manufacture weapons can be seized and the person arrested. if your not going to play baseball, and your wandering around with a bat you can be arrested. in british law anyway. i assume canadian law was based on ours.
Some of the Canadian law was also based on the French Couturne de Paris for the province of Quebec.
 
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Originally Posted by dgagitw
So why aren't tonfas banned too then? I can think of all sorts of offensive weapons that aren't on that list, the question is why nunchakus specifically are banned?
Because the list hasn't been updated since 1992, the RCMP keeps asking for it to be updated but because of the way the Firearms Act was enacted, the power to change the regulations got much harder. IIRC previously it was an Order in Council which was relatively straightforward, but there was a court case in Alberta where it was held that the OIC hadn't been done correctly, so under the Act it is now a regulation that has to be confirmed by Parliament, which is harder to do. Both because of Parliament having to be involved and also because property rights are a provincial responsibility under the Constitution.

So basically they've sort of left it to provinces to ban them now if they want to. Hence the "Body Armour Control Act" recently in Alberta.
 
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Is canada gun law the same as uk eg, guns to be locked,ammo to be locked,good reason for that type of firearm.

Been on the cic site bit did not get much joy
 
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Originally Posted by graham and george
Is canada gun law the same as uk eg, guns to be locked,ammo to be locked,good reason for that type of firearm.

Been on the cic site bit did not get much joy

Does this help: http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11.6/ ?
 
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Originally Posted by graham and george
Is canada gun law the same as uk eg, guns to be locked,ammo to be locked,good reason for that type of firearm.

Been on the cic site bit did not get much joy
This link has better resources
http://www.nfa.ca/nfa-legal
 
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Is canada gun law the same as uk eg, guns to be locked,ammo to be locked,good reason for that type of firearm.

Been on the cic site bit did not get much joy
Your reason for 'restricted' firearms I believe can only be target shooting or collecting. Personal Defence would raise a few eyebrows!!

Ammo doesn't have to be locked but should be stored in a different room to the firearm, although it can be stored with the firearm if locked.

Also from what I understand depending what province you live in makes a big difference on how the police interpret the laws, for example Quebec are pretty anti and take forever to license individuals with their PAL's and transfer firearms, also throw the book at you for small infringements or for interpreting the regulations to the extreme.

Alberta is a different story, licensing is quicker, transfers are quicker and the authorities are a little more firearm friendly.

I just purchased an AR15 military spec carbine on Thursday and took it home on Friday, just needed an ATT, trigger lock and locked gun case (which is really a padded sleeve with a small padlock on it).

As for transport and storage, it's really vague and open to mis-interpretation, to the extent that I called the CFO (Chief Firearms Officer) for Alberta and they couldn't make sense of the regulation! As an example what constitutes 'Difficult to break in to'

I still tend to go over and above the requirements to be on the safe side!!


This is a useful RCMP doc: http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/D...posage-eng.pdf

This is the biggest Canadian forum and has loads of interesting stuff: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/index.php
 
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my guns are for hunting only shotgun and rifle 22.223.308 for deer and fox. uk gun laws are very strict,only have a gun for good reason eg .22 for rabbits,223 for fox,308 for deer also have to have land cleared by police for that calibre of gun unless you have open ticket.

alberta is where we tend to land/live so it should just be a case of transfer from one to another.
 


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