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steve666 Sep 19th 2007 6:00 pm

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by Tangram (Post 5329756)
Exactly what we did a few months ago. Did the budget on $2 and anything above that went towards new TV etc. Seemed the safest way of doing it.

You got a short memory lol, you were in a state of flux over the mid rate being 2.11 last month.;)

mandymoochops Sep 19th 2007 6:18 pm

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am starting to worry now in case it goes below 2:1. The house we have fallen in love with we could just about afford (if ours bloody sells) but any lower and we'll have nothing to furnish it with / no cars / and certainly no plasma :eek:

Looks like we'll be cross border shopping ;)

steve666 Sep 19th 2007 9:36 pm

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Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 5332541)
am starting to worry now in case it goes below 2:1. The house we have fallen in love with we could just about afford (if ours bloody sells) but any lower and we'll have nothing to furnish it with / no cars / and certainly no plasma :eek:

Looks like we'll be cross border shopping ;)

You have the same problem as us, and our bridging loan to buy the property over there will bleed us dry.

To do it over again? No way would I buy a property over their until we sold ours here. Go into rental until you're sure of a property and have the cash in the bank.

Easy to say now of course, logically. But unfortunately we're not Vulcans when we need to be.

Tangram Sep 19th 2007 11:37 pm

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by steve666 (Post 5332504)
You got a short memory lol, you were in a state of flux over the mid rate being 2.11 last month.;)

Yeah coz the rate I was expecting wasn't what I was getting. The market I couldn't do anything about, the apparent fleecing was what got me.

My sympathy to you tho, you're a brave man doing what you're doing. I waited on this side of the Atlantic for 5 months without family to avoid that situation.... not actually sure which situation is better lol.

Paul Wildy Sep 19th 2007 11:44 pm

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To be fair to you Steve the problem is really with the legal system in the UK - when you agree to buy a house in Canada its firm and final and you are legally bound. But in the UK its a joke! You hear all these people going around saying they have "sold" their house but in reality they haven't at all - they just have someone who is interested that could pull out at any stage. Until contracts are exchanged (which usually only happens right at the end) the house is not sold at all. It is ridiculous.

If the UK had a sensible legal system they buying a house in Canada would be easy. At the time of signing the Canadian purchase agreement the best thing to do would be to "book" an exchange rate (thus removing the risk" so you know exactly how many dollars you would have on the closing date.

howardk Sep 20th 2007 12:16 am

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Originally Posted by steve666 (Post 5332500)
That's what I've been told will happen from my lawyer over there if I don't close by Oct 1st. I guess it's down to how bolshy the seller wants to be.

You're not thinking of pulling out from your sale already are you Howard?:)

hi steve...yeah,we had masses of 2nd thoughts....missing the beach,the scenery of NZ,the culture etc etc etc ....but nearer to uk for the family in kanata,kids love school and already have 3 sets of visitors before xmas....also think we got a good price on the house and can always re-sell next spring/summer....hope your situation improves asap...cheers

stepnek Sep 20th 2007 12:23 am

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by NSpaul (Post 5333794)
To be fair to you Steve the problem is really with the legal system in the UK - when you agree to buy a house in Canada its firm and final and you are legally bound. But in the UK its a joke! You hear all these people going around saying they have "sold" their house but in reality they haven't at all - they just have someone who is interested that could pull out at any stage. Until contracts are exchanged (which usually only happens right at the end) the house is not sold at all. It is ridiculous.

If the UK had a sensible legal system they buying a house in Canada would be easy. At the time of signing the Canadian purchase agreement the best thing to do would be to "book" an exchange rate (thus removing the risk" so you know exactly how many dollars you would have on the closing date.

I haven't followed all of the discussion here but I well remember the terrors of selling our UK house and our stupidity in letting the buyers know that we were on a deadline to move to Canada. They eventually went though with the deal but only after dragging the whole thing out as long as possible and by knocking amounts off of the agreed price during that process.

benjy Sep 20th 2007 3:18 am

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by NSpaul (Post 5333794)
To be fair to you Steve the problem is really with the legal system in the UK - when you agree to buy a house in Canada its firm and final and you are legally bound. But in the UK its a joke! You hear all these people going around saying they have "sold" their house but in reality they haven't at all - they just have someone who is interested that could pull out at any stage. Until contracts are exchanged (which usually only happens right at the end) the house is not sold at all. It is ridiculous.

If the UK had a sensible legal system they buying a house in Canada would be easy. At the time of signing the Canadian purchase agreement the best thing to do would be to "book" an exchange rate (thus removing the risk" so you know exactly how many dollars you would have on the closing date.

MMM,
We've bought a house in Calgary and fortunately had sold our UK house (exchanged) and completing on the 5.10. We planned ahead and "booked" a rate with Halo Financial at 2.14....weeks before, so all was well I thought, but the greedy chap at Halo put a big fat spread on that rate, so when it hit 2.146 on the 12th Sept we thought..sorted..got our money. How wrong were we....because of his big fat spread the order didn't trigger, nor did they ring ang guess what we didn't get our money....

My advice use a reputable co that is honest and doesn't try and rip you off, find out how man pips they have on your cash and then you know where you are.

At the moment we've lost thousands due to someones greed!!!!

steve666 Sep 20th 2007 3:36 am

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by Tangram (Post 5333771)
Yeah coz the rate I was expecting wasn't what I was getting. The market I couldn't do anything about, the apparent fleecing was what got me.

My sympathy to you tho, you're a brave man doing what you're doing. I waited on this side of the Atlantic for 5 months without family to avoid that situation.... not actually sure which situation is better lol.

We've gone too far now to stop, we're going over in a week, wife comes back to wait for the house sale and I have no idea at the moment how much we're going to have left. Given up planning now just wing it till we settle down.

MarkG Sep 20th 2007 4:33 am

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by NSpaul (Post 5333794)
If the UK had a sensible legal system they buying a house in Canada would be easy.

The legal system isn't what makes selling a house in the UK difficult... it's the fact that the average house is now roughly eight times the average salary.

Fortunately I just read that prices dropped 2.5% in the UK last month, though I don't know how true that is. Selling will be a lot easier after a couple of years of drops like that.

Paul Wildy Sep 20th 2007 5:11 am

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Originally Posted by MarkG (Post 5334845)
The legal system isn't what makes selling a house in the UK difficult... it's the fact that the average house is now roughly eight times the average salary.

Fortunately I just read that prices dropped 2.5% in the UK last month, though I don't know how true that is. Selling will be a lot easier after a couple of years of drops like that.

I think its a genuine figure. see http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...nhouose114.xml. The main problem would be though that people would not wish to enter a falling market - they would wait until they knew prices had genuinely bottomed. So while everyone waits nothing sells.

Danny B Sep 20th 2007 5:16 am

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Originally Posted by MarkG (Post 5334845)
The legal system isn't what makes selling a house in the UK difficult... it's the fact that the average house is now roughly eight times the average salary.

Fortunately I just read that prices dropped 2.5% in the UK last month, though I don't know how true that is. Selling will be a lot easier after a couple of years of drops like that.

I paid slightly over 8x my annual Cdn salary for my house here in Kamloops and prices are still rising high.

Paul Wildy Sep 20th 2007 5:20 am

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 5335036)
I paid slightly over 8x my annual Cdn salary for my house here in Kamloops and prices are still rising high.

My guess would be though (and this is pure speculation!) that although you paid 8 times salary you don't live in an "average" house? Photo please?

Tangram Sep 20th 2007 5:50 am

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by NSpaul (Post 5333794)
To be fair to you Steve the problem is really with the legal system in the UK - when you agree to buy a house in Canada its firm and final and you are legally bound. But in the UK its a joke! You hear all these people going around saying they have "sold" their house but in reality they haven't at all - they just have someone who is interested that could pull out at any stage. Until contracts are exchanged (which usually only happens right at the end) the house is not sold at all. It is ridiculous.

If the UK had a sensible legal system they buying a house in Canada would be easy. At the time of signing the Canadian purchase agreement the best thing to do would be to "book" an exchange rate (thus removing the risk" so you know exactly how many dollars you would have on the closing date.

Actually it's pretty easy to back out of a purchase in Canada and the small deposits required ( mine was $1000 ) isn't a great incentive to stay in a deal if you really want to find a way out. And this came from my Realtor !!

steve666 Sep 20th 2007 5:51 am

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Canadian dollar ony a cent away from parity with the U.S. Dollar...
Poodles to it.


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