Got a link for that ? I'd guess it depends on a tight definition of "developed nation".

I have no trouble believing that.

Nor that.

2000 - UNICEF research / 14 developed countries.
2000 - UN Report on Human Development / 24 developed countries...Canada 19th (US bottom)

etc etc

Rich.

I didn't find the one from 2000 but here's a more recent one :

http://www.unicef.org/brazil/repcard6e.pdf

Canada 19th, UK 20th, USA 25th.

They don't list "developed" but "rich" countries, presumably so as to avoid having to include India, Korea and the like as that would make the US, and incidentally Canada and the UK, look relatively good. No UN statistics can ever be allowed to hint that there are some healthy and educated people in America. Figure 2 seems to me to show child poverty rates falling through the 90s in all three countries mentioned.

I suppose I should specify that I don't advocate starving children in Canada. I do unchain mine from time to time. I think another reason to fear Harper is that were he in power he would likely look for ways to reduce spending on education (directly by the feds or indirectly by the provinces). Tuition fees are already brutal.

Here comes an important Statement. Not my own: "Prosperity and Wellbeing of citizens depend on the way the State authority treats the Christian Churches" ...You are free to subject it to your own tests.

Here is what Alexander Tocqueville - a French Philosopher in early 19th Century, thought was the primary reason for American prowess in the world.
Myself I hope it holds good for the future!

Check link

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/DE...ion/ch1_17.htm

Doesn't seem even vaguely relevant to Canada. The Christian church enjoys an unreasonable bias in its favour here.

Link: What a long winded blather of nothingness.

Rich.

...And who would be YOUR favourite phylosopher?
Or is that a secret? In case people pause for breath!

Basically my eyes closed after the first couple of paragraphs.

> Ermintrude did it for me way back.

Rich.

Try to get it right dbd33 it was CCRAP and they never accepted it but your original CRAP would do for your own personal attitude.

Are you stupid or what? Many people are pro-abortionists and have been for more years than you will live upon this earth.

So are you a buddist with a lager-lout attitude?

I seem to remember that the US was not involved in a war started by themselves in Bosnia. They were, like many other nations, UN peace keepers.

Supposedly so but IIRC they dilly-dallied and thumb-twiddled etc and while they did thousands more civvies died in the bombing, and Clinton told the story in his autobiography and he carries a burden of guilt for not acting unilaterally at the time.

I know it sounds like people moaning that the worlds biggest military power can't do right from wrong, but they certainly do their best to give that impression.

Rich.

I don't think Trudeau had the foresight to realise the immense tax gain of a government owning the biggest purchasers of alcoholic drinks in the world - he was far too busy bonking and performing buffoonery. Not your best advertisement for a Liberal leader.

It's a fact that if it were not for the Americans many of us would not be here now to partake in this forum. Indeed, we may all be speaking German. Well, accept for dbd who would still be blubbering his anti this and anti that thoughts and still be leaving his dog muck to stay where it landed for others to tred-in.