Re: Changes to TWP programme
Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10684158)
I am against because:
1. abuse of TFW (substandard housing, etc) 2. drives down wages/working conditions at the bottom 3. TFWs have very few rights working here. The RBC case and other similar ones have exposed their perfidy and now they have to back down. Incompetent a-holes. |
Re: Changes to TWP programme
Watch the Immigration forum now implode.
So Accelerated LMOs now suspended. A potential fee for applying for an LMO. Increase to the work permit fee which has been stuck at $150 for years. "What we're trying to do is put more financial pressure on employers to look to and hire Canadians first," Kenney said at a news conference. The total number of temporary foreign workers has doubled in the last decade, to 338,189 workers. So it looks like Canadians 1st where applicable then foreign workers. |
Re: Changes to TWP programme
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
(Post 10684295)
So it looks like Canadians 1st where applicable then foreign workers.
Previously the program was designed to accommodate seasonal migrant farm workers and the like. But they changed it to allow companies to lay off Canadians and outsource their jobs to TFW's employed by subcontractors at depressed wages. They've been caught. Remember the F-35 at all? |
Re: Changes to TWP programme
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 10684308)
Hadn't that always been the case until Harper & Kenny redefined TFW?
Previously the program was designed to accommodate seasonal migrant farm workers and the like. But they changed it to allow companies to lay off Canadians and outsource their jobs to TFW's employed by subcontractors at depressed wages. They've been caught. Remember the F-35 at all? Been following it on CBC. In talkback construction workers have been calling saying how unethical companies are using TFWs to undercut wages and safety on building sites, forcing ethical companies out of business. I don't doubt it. |
Re: Changes to TWP programme
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 10684141)
I think you're confusing TWP with TFW. That's what they're changing.
They both sound remarkably similar |
Re: Changes to TWP programme
Originally Posted by energysolutions
(Post 10684374)
Pardon my ignorance but whats the difference?
They both sound remarkably similar Buggered if I know. |
Re: Changes to TWP programme
TWP: Temporary Work Permit
TFW: Temporary Foreign Worker (Someone with an active Temporary Work Permit in Canada) |
Re: Changes to TWP programme
Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy
(Post 10684395)
TWP: Temporary Work Permit
TFW: Temporary Foreign Worker (Someone with an active Temporary Work Permit in Canada) |
Re: Changes to TWP programme
Originally Posted by energysolutions
(Post 10684400)
So theyre essentially the same thing.......?
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Re: Changes to TWP programme
Oh, so I was right then.
And so was Novo. :thumbup: |
Re: Changes to TWP programme
Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10684410)
Oh, so I was right then.
And so was Novo. :thumbup: Would you rather wait to see a doctor or be seen by one on a TWP? |
Re: Changes to TWP programme
When does this come into effect or has it already?
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Re: Changes to TWP programme
Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy
(Post 10684395)
TWP: Temporary Work Permit
TFW: Temporary Foreign Worker (Someone with an active Temporary Work Permit in Canada)
Originally Posted by energysolutions
(Post 10684400)
So theyre essentially the same thing.......?
Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy
(Post 10684407)
One is the document, the other is the person effected.
Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10684410)
Oh, so I was right then.
And so was Novo. :thumbup: A TWP is what you get if an employer wants to hire you and can't find a Canadian to do the job. If that is correctly documented (by the employer) they are issued a quaintly named document called a Labour Market Opinion (LMO). With the LMO in place the employee gets a TWP and gets on with it. A TFW (Temporary Foreign Worker) used to be a seasonal farm worker from e.g. Mexico or Colombia or Peru who could be hired by farmers as casual help at harvest time or whatever. Harper & Kenny changed the definition of TFW to include anything where there was a labour shortage and allows companies to pay these poor saps 15% less than a Canadian. As you might expect this resulted in Canadians not being able to get unskilled jobs because they would cost 15% more than a furriner who has no rights. What has happened is that the nutjob Conservatives have been caught out ****ing over Canadians and they've had to back down. |
Re: Changes to TWP programme
Wow, I had no idea about that. Thanks for the clarification!
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Re: Changes to TWP programme
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 10684507)
No, no, no and no. ;)
A TWP is what you get if an employer wants to hire you and can't find a Canadian to do the job. If that is correctly documented (by the employer) they are issued a quaintly named document called a Labour Market Opinion (LMO). With the LMO in place the employee gets a TWP and gets on with it. A TFW (Temporary Foreign Worker) used to be a seasonal farm worker from e.g. Mexico or Colombia or Peru who could be hired by farmers as casual help at harvest time or whatever. Harper & Kenny changed the definition of TFW to include anything where there was a labour shortage and allows companies to pay these poor saps 15% less than a Canadian. As you might expect this resulted in Canadians not being able to get unskilled jobs because they would cost 15% more than a furriner who has no rights. What has happened is that the nutjob Conservatives have been caught out ****ing over Canadians and they've had to back down. |
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