Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > Canada
Reload this Page >

Changes to TWP programme

Wikiposts

Changes to TWP programme

Thread Tools
 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 4:31 am
  #1  
Thread Starter
slanderer of the innocent
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,695
From: Vancouver, BC
ExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond repute
Default Changes to TWP programme



The Feds are changing the rules. Now the employer will have to produce a plan for hiring canadian workers to replace the TWPs in the long run.

Good.
 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 5:21 am
  #2  
Steve_'s Avatar
Grumpy Know-it-all
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 8,928
From: Calgary, Alberta
Steve_ has a reputation beyond reputeSteve_ has a reputation beyond reputeSteve_ has a reputation beyond reputeSteve_ has a reputation beyond reputeSteve_ has a reputation beyond reputeSteve_ has a reputation beyond reputeSteve_ has a reputation beyond reputeSteve_ has a reputation beyond reputeSteve_ has a reputation beyond reputeSteve_ has a reputation beyond reputeSteve_ has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Changes to TWP programme

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stor...s-changes.html

Well this was always going to happen because they intended for it to happen, i.e. stop people coming in as SW1 and instead have them come in on work permits and then get PR status through sponsorship of the employer. So everyone and their mother got work permits ("faster to process" being the mantra) and now all of this has happened.

And now they won't be fast to process anymore and it will be harder to use, etc. Companies like Sunwing are obviously buggered by these changes.

If you turn the screws on in one area, people switch to a different method, it's obvious. And now if they turn the screws on the work permit programme, people will use a different method - called working illegally, I suspect, which is what happened in the US.

I keep wondering what will happen to the housing market, especially in Toronto and Vancouver.
 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 6:36 am
  #3  
Almost Canadian's Avatar
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 13,402
From: South of Calgary
Almost Canadian has a reputation beyond reputeAlmost Canadian has a reputation beyond reputeAlmost Canadian has a reputation beyond reputeAlmost Canadian has a reputation beyond reputeAlmost Canadian has a reputation beyond reputeAlmost Canadian has a reputation beyond reputeAlmost Canadian has a reputation beyond reputeAlmost Canadian has a reputation beyond reputeAlmost Canadian has a reputation beyond reputeAlmost Canadian has a reputation beyond reputeAlmost Canadian has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Changes to TWP programme

Originally Posted by ExKiwilass


The Feds are changing the rules. Now the employer will have to produce a plan for hiring canadian workers to replace the TWPs in the long run.

Good.
How's that going to work then? If the TWP is issued because the Canadian employer can't find a Canadian to do the job, what "plan" could the employer propose? Train more Canadians? Fine, so long at the Universities offer more places to doctor, engineer, etc. students.
 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 6:56 am
  #4  
Jingsamichty's Avatar
Lowering the tone
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 8,154
From: Here and there
Jingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Changes to TWP programme

Originally Posted by ExKiwilass


The Feds are changing the rules. Now the employer will have to produce a plan for hiring canadian workers to replace the TWPs in the long run.

Good.
Does the system need "fixing"? What's the problem?

The TWP system suits me just fine.
 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 7:07 am
  #5  
russjp's Avatar
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 120
From: Rouleau, Saskatchewan
russjp will become famous soon enoughrussjp will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Changes to TWP programme

As a HGV driver new to the country, it would appear that a large proportion of the canadian population have no desire to do the job and would rather sit in a warm office all week with their feet up. All good and well till the supermarket and shop shelves start to empty and what happens then - you cant force people to do a job they dont want to do and thats where we come in - there are places all around the city I live in advertising for class 1 drivers and nobody is taking the jobs so how are they gonna stop this happening ??
 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 7:11 am
  #6  
Tangram's Avatar
Seasoned Maritimer
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 8,309
From: Fredericton, New Brunswick CA
Tangram has a reputation beyond reputeTangram has a reputation beyond reputeTangram has a reputation beyond reputeTangram has a reputation beyond reputeTangram has a reputation beyond reputeTangram has a reputation beyond reputeTangram has a reputation beyond reputeTangram has a reputation beyond reputeTangram has a reputation beyond reputeTangram has a reputation beyond reputeTangram has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Changes to TWP programme

Originally Posted by russjp
As a HGV driver new to the country, it would appear that a large proportion of the canadian population have no desire to do the job and would rather sit in a warm office all week with their feet up. All good and well till the supermarket and shop shelves start to empty and what happens then - you cant force people to do a job they dont want to do and thats where we come in - there are places all around the city I live in advertising for class 1 drivers and nobody is taking the jobs so how are they gonna stop this happening ??
Perhaps they should pay more ?
 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 7:20 am
  #7  
orly's Avatar
The ride never ends
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 2,481
From: SW Ontario
orly has a reputation beyond reputeorly has a reputation beyond reputeorly has a reputation beyond reputeorly has a reputation beyond reputeorly has a reputation beyond reputeorly has a reputation beyond reputeorly has a reputation beyond reputeorly has a reputation beyond reputeorly has a reputation beyond reputeorly has a reputation beyond reputeorly has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Changes to TWP programme

Originally Posted by Tangram
Perhaps they should pay more ?
Ding. We have a winner.
 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 7:25 am
  #8  
russjp's Avatar
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 120
From: Rouleau, Saskatchewan
russjp will become famous soon enoughrussjp will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Changes to TWP programme

Originally Posted by Tangram
Perhaps they should pay more ?
Is $70k a year not enough for some people, I'm sure it beats minimum wage ?
 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 7:26 am
  #9  
Thread Starter
slanderer of the innocent
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,695
From: Vancouver, BC
ExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Changes to TWP programme

Originally Posted by orly
Ding. We have a winner.
yup.
 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 7:27 am
  #10  
Thread Starter
slanderer of the innocent
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,695
From: Vancouver, BC
ExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Changes to TWP programme

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
Does the system need "fixing"? What's the problem?

The TWP system suits me just fine.
I'm sure it does Jings
 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 7:31 am
  #11  
Novocastrian's Avatar
Born again atheist
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 30,259
From: Europe (to be specified).
Novocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond reputeNovocastrian has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Changes to TWP programme

Originally Posted by ExKiwilass


The Feds are changing the rules. Now the employer will have to produce a plan for hiring canadian workers to replace the TWPs in the long run.

Good.
I think you're confusing TWP with TFW. That's what they're changing.
 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 7:39 am
  #12  
Jingsamichty's Avatar
Lowering the tone
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 8,154
From: Here and there
Jingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond reputeJingsamichty has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Changes to TWP programme

Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
I'm sure it does Jings
You obviously have a different opinion. Why?
 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 7:39 am
  #13  
Thread Starter
slanderer of the innocent
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,695
From: Vancouver, BC
ExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Changes to TWP programme

Originally Posted by Novocastrian
I think you're confusing TWP with TFW. That's what they're changing.
Am I?

 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 7:41 am
  #14  
Thread Starter
slanderer of the innocent
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,695
From: Vancouver, BC
ExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Changes to TWP programme

oh yeah, you're right.

Still, good.
 
Old Apr 29th 2013 | 7:43 am
  #15  
Thread Starter
slanderer of the innocent
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,695
From: Vancouver, BC
ExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond reputeExKiwilass has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Changes to TWP programme

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
You obviously have a different opinion. Why?
I am against because:

1. abuse of TFW (substandard housing, etc)
2. drives down wages/working conditions at the bottom
3. TFWs have very few rights working here.
 


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.