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Re: Bittersweet Christmas
Originally Posted by brianscottie43
(Post 7104179)
The fact that you have supportive family here will be of great assistance in getting you settled much more quickly. They will be able to walk you through so many aspects of everyday life here. I believe you have said in previous posts that you have visited Canada a number of times and no doubt during these visits you checked into things and your glasses are fully clear rather than rose-tinted. I, like your uncle and Montreal Mike, have been here for many years and I also have no regrets. Your reasons for leaving the UK are nobody's business but your own. As I said in another thread, I have no doubt whatsoever that the crime/bullying/harassment you experience in your area is true and as you've experienced Canada on vacation, you want to live here. GO FOR IT and to Hell with those on this website with their smart-aleck, negative, judgmental comments.
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Re: Bittersweet Christmas
Originally Posted by Caimas
(Post 7103859)
Tinytears, I hope you find the peace of mind you are looking for in Canada. Nobody should have to live as you describe, and I wish you and your family well. In a bizarre way, the 'button-pushing' by certain members of BE is probably very helpful to you, although most likely by default, not intention. :)
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Re: Bittersweet Christmas
Originally Posted by brianscottie43
(Post 7104179)
The fact that you have supportive family here will be of great assistance in getting you settled much more quickly. They will be able to walk you through so many aspects of everyday life here. I believe you have said in previous posts that you have visited Canada a number of times and no doubt during these visits you checked into things and your glasses are fully clear rather than rose-tinted. I, like your uncle and Montreal Mike, have been here for many years and I also have no regrets. Your reasons for leaving the UK are nobody's business but your own. As I said in another thread, I have no doubt whatsoever that the crime/bullying/harassment you experience in your area is true and as you've experienced Canada on vacation, you want to live here. GO FOR IT and to Hell with those on this website with their smart-aleck, negative, judgmental comments.
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Re: Bittersweet Christmas
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 7104198)
I also hope she finds peace of mind here. But she may not. I'd recommend that all those seeking to come to Canada to avoid aspects of their lives in the UK think very hard about it first and spend at least as much time reading the MBTTUK forum as this one.
If it wasnt for some real nice people on here, then i would of found the move over harder than what we have done, to have kids and do the move is real hard for anyone, we do not live 30+ years ago when people landed with just suitcases and just got on with it :blink: We have internet now and why not use it to your advanage, help others I know since we arrived the amount of support that we have had from locals is way more than i could ever ask for, to be welcomed with no questions asked, they are not bothered about my background, who i know and what level of education i have..........etc Maybe instead of coming on OP post and having a go, be nice, offer support, see if there is anything you can help her with..........abit of karma goes along way:eek::eek: |
Re: Bittersweet Christmas
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 7104208)
Agreed in principal, but if a poster writes multiple posts on several threads complaining about e.g. "yob culture", then I see no reason why others shouldn't point out the pitfalls in this over simplification.
Could it be that the pace of change in Canada has been more moderate than in the UK? This is a theory of mine. I have working class relatives there in the London area who seems quite content with their lot as I am in Canada. But for sure the UK is no longer as it once was. |
Re: Bittersweet Christmas
Originally Posted by Yogi-Bear
(Post 7103680)
Well thanks for that property link Bristol, I was amazed what $350,000.00 buys you there. Incredible! What's the employment situation there?
There are a few threads where it's been mentioned. I know there are loads of call centre jobs, there's a casino coming and there are quite a few government offices, lots of retail and IT related things. Airport, a few industrial estates. Moncton is experiencing a bit of a boom...lots of new commercial building going on and all the stuff associated with that. I suppose a job vacancy list would look less impressive than other places, but the population is smaller too, so opportunity may be much the same as other places. One of the things I keep saying comes back to property prices. You've now seen what $350k will buy. If one has $350k, one could consider buying for less, but still great. Look at this or this for example. With the rest of the money one could also buy a rental, like those here The income from renting may open up a whole load of employment options - perhaps one can take the lower paid, but less stressful and closer to home position. Or even part time. It's quite liberating. |
Re: Bittersweet Christmas
I hear that the oil patch is now in trouble. So maybe to be avoided. Not the land of promise it once was.
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Re: Bittersweet Christmas
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 7104198)
I'd recommend that all those seeking to come to Canada to avoid aspects of their lives in the UK think very hard about it first and spend at least as much time reading the MBTTUK forum as this one.
It is noticeable, however, that in all the reasons given for wanting to return to the UK, one rarely, if at all, sees anyone mentioning yob culture/crime/anti-social behaviour etc in the country to which they moved as a factor influencing their decision. |
Re: Bittersweet Christmas
Originally Posted by moondevil
(Post 7104365)
I think the OP would of read the articles in the forum and made her judgement and is still willing to do the move, we are not here to judge others, we are here to help others on there long journey ;)
If it wasnt for some real nice people on here, then i would of found the move over harder than what we have done, to have kids and do the move is real hard for anyone, we do not live 30+ years ago when people landed with just suitcases and just got on with it :blink: We have internet now and why not use it to your advanage, help others I know since we arrived the amount of support that we have had from locals is way more than i could ever ask for, to be welcomed with no questions asked, they are not bothered about my background, who i know and what level of education i have..........etc Maybe instead of coming on OP post and having a go, be nice, offer support, see if there is anything you can help her with..........abit of karma goes along way:eek::eek: |
Re: Bittersweet Christmas
Originally Posted by montreal mike
(Post 7104447)
I hear that the oil patch is now in trouble. So maybe to be avoided. Not the land of promise it once was.
But then you've been in Canada much longer than me.;) |
Re: Bittersweet Christmas
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 7104198)
I also hope she finds peace of mind here. But she may not. I'd recommend that all those seeking to come to Canada to avoid aspects of their lives in the UK think very hard about it first and spend at least as much time reading the MBTTUK forum as this one.
Having ping-ponged from Australia in 2002, and still contemplating the 'push-pull' factors that we all consider during emigration in 2008/9: TT sounds like she is experiencing the nightmare first-hand. The phrase: 'It's not what you say, but how you say it' - springs to mind.... :) |
Re: Bittersweet Christmas
Originally Posted by startwin
(Post 7104472)
I think you've kind of hit the nail on the head with this posting. We certainly are not here to judge others nor should we question their motives. I was one of those who arrived 30+ years ago with no prior visit or reccie, very naive, but got on with it and made a life. I'm not sure if I would have done that with forums like this, I would have been questioning myself over and over and agonising on if we had made the right decision. So there are pros and cons to having the internet and all the resources available. Sometimes, ignorance is bliss, and you just do what you think is right for you and your family. I left England in the mid-70's when life in the UK was very grim. I'm still glad we left, and it turned out to be the right decision for us. The UK got out of the mire of that time and prospered, but it's not the same country anymore and I wouldn't want to live there. And that's the thing - you do what you believe is right for you, not what the other posters on here think is right.
Adding a smilie to enhance the sentiment! ;) |
Re: Bittersweet Christmas
Originally Posted by montreal mike
(Post 7104417)
I agree with you. Your point is valid. Obviously one needs perspective as not all of the UK is doom and gloom and not all aspects of canadian life are that good.
Could it be that the pace of change in Canada has been more moderate than in the UK? This is a theory of mine. I have working class relatives there in the London area who seems quite content with their lot as I am in Canada. But for sure the UK is no longer as it once was. Good point. I also think that the Uk doesn't help itself really with virtually giving away cheap booze, plus there's a pub within at least 2 miles in the Uk from where anyone lives. Some may think this is great, and it can be when used for a social evening. But when you thugs involved with it, then it's a different ball game. I didn't see any Yobbish behavior in Calgary in the several times we've been there, but then I didn't see any pubs on street corners either. Come to think of it, I didn't see any gangs of kids full stop! Y Y |
Re: Bittersweet Christmas
Originally Posted by moondevil
(Post 7104365)
I think the OP would of read the articles in the forum and made her judgement and is still willing to do the move, we are not here to judge others, we are here to help others on there long journey ;)
If it wasnt for some real nice people on here, then i would of found the move over harder than what we have done, to have kids and do the move is real hard for anyone, we do not live 30+ years ago when people landed with just suitcases and just got on with it :blink: We have internet now and why not use it to your advanage, help others I know since we arrived the amount of support that we have had from locals is way more than i could ever ask for, to be welcomed with no questions asked, they are not bothered about my background, who i know and what level of education i have..........etc Maybe instead of coming on OP post and having a go, be nice, offer support, see if there is anything you can help her with..........abit of karma goes along way:eek::eek: She has an awesome sense of humour too. Canada's gain for sure ;) Y |
Re: Bittersweet Christmas
Originally Posted by Yogi-Bear
(Post 7104573)
Hi Mike,
Good point. I also think that the Uk doesn't help itself really with virtually giving away cheap booze, plus there's a pub within at least 2 miles in the Uk from where anyone lives. Some may think this is great, and it can be when used for a social evening. But when you thugs involved with it, then it's a different ball game. I didn't see any Yobbish behavior in Calgary in the several times we've been there, but then I didn't see any pubs on street corners either. Come to think of it, I didn't see any gangs of kids full stop! Y Y And all your drink problems are sat behind wheels of cars - Red Deer's stats alone for DUI is disgraceful!:ohmy: |
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