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Old May 2nd 2023 | 2:19 am
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
apartheid is way OTT but the voice is definitely a form of racial exclusivity

It's scary that one of the World's great liberal democracies is proposing this kind of thing in 2023 but there it is
One thing I can always count on, when I remember about this site and swing by every couple of years, is that you will always be here, spouting absolute 100% certified bollocks. Like some fetid far-right stream of consciousness straight from the collective colon of humanity.
 
Old May 2nd 2023 | 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Hutch
One thing I can always count on, when I remember about this site and swing by every couple of years, is that you will always be here, spouting absolute 100% certified bollocks. Like some fetid far-right stream of consciousness straight from the collective colon of humanity.
This.
 
Old May 4th 2023 | 9:31 pm
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Originally Posted by abner
Yes, yes, and yes.

And long overdue.

If it passes, it won't create any wrenching, immediate change, for good or ill. It will be more like the Mabo case: ground-breaking, in the sense that Mabo broke the illusion of the 'Terra Nullius' argument, and created a "seat at the table" for Aboriginal stakeholders, based on property rights.

Rather, the Voice will create a different seat at a different table, i.e. one which decides on federal social policy, especially as it applies to ATSI people.
Presumably it will create many employment opportunities if it confers a right to be represented at thousands of meetings, agencies etc. What is the scope of this representation?
 
Old May 4th 2023 | 9:32 pm
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This.
is unpleasant and intolerant
 
Old May 5th 2023 | 7:45 pm
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is unpleasant and intolerant
Reality. Get over yourself!
 
Old May 5th 2023 | 7:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Retirednow
Reality. Get over yourself!
if that is your level of conversation at a Barbie, it would be a must avoid event. And this is a teetotal Barbie too!
 
Old May 5th 2023 | 8:12 pm
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Originally Posted by scotty9000
.... And this is a teetotal Barbie too!
Drinks are available if you know where to look -
 
Old May 5th 2023 | 8:47 pm
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Originally Posted by old.sparkles
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Good grief yes, it would've been closed down years ago otherwise
 
Old May 6th 2023 | 5:40 pm
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Unless things change, this referendum is going to be a real divider. But I think that was the aim of it in the first place. 7 votes to 6 so far.
 
Old Jul 20th 2023 | 10:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Hutch
One thing I can always count on, when I remember about this site and swing by every couple of years, is that you will always be here, spouting absolute 100% certified bollocks. Like some fetid far-right stream of consciousness straight from the collective colon of humanity.
You have such a way with words. Couldn't agree more, though.
Originally Posted by scotty9000
is unpleasant and intolerant
Yes, yes the person Hutch is referring to is both of those things.
 
Old Aug 7th 2023 | 7:14 pm
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7 votes all now. A real divider.

The Guardian has published the results of a poll which suggests growing support for the No everywhere except Victoria.

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ial-poll-shows

I can't help feel the principles of the voice campaign around helping Aboriginal people would be better served by legislation, something that would likely get through parliament, rather than asking the public to put it in the constitution and make it permanent. We have just seen the WA government do a complete turn around n their Aboriginal Heritage Protection laws. Often things need changing and shouldn't be permanent.
 
Old Sep 15th 2023 | 9:57 pm
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Impressive speech from Jacinta Price. It's amazing how people don't see the Voice as the institution of racist division that it will become.
 
Old Sep 15th 2023 | 10:19 pm
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I’m not a citizen, so I am watching on. I think clarity is lacking in both camps. And whatever the outcome, I will bet my bottom dollar that there is no consensus on why we got that outcome.
 
Old Sep 15th 2023 | 10:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Rainydaze
I’m not a citizen, so I am watching on. I think clarity is lacking in both camps. And whatever the outcome, I will bet my bottom dollar that there is no consensus on why we got that outcome.
I'm not a citizen either, but I like to add my two Australia cents. Why do you think there is a lack of clarity ? Both sides seem to have specific arguments.
 
Old Sep 16th 2023 | 1:59 am
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Originally Posted by Shard
I'm not a citizen either, but I like to add my two Australia cents. Why do you think there is a lack of clarity ? Both sides seem to have specific arguments.
Good question! I think in part because I don’t think the issues have been interrogated enough before voters go to the polls. A longer national conversation could have given proper time to debate the questions, to allow advocates greater time to make the case, even to tease out the ‘why’ differences in the No camps, etc. It has been a very short timeframe from “this is the date of the referendum” to that date.
 


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