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-   -   Why? See thread for more details. (https://britishexpats.com/forum/barbie-92/why-see-thread-more-details-648197/)

Hutch Jan 9th 2010 4:26 pm
Re: Why? See thread for more details.
 
It's utterly utterly hilarious, the Indians getting on their high horses about this. But rather than posit my own views on the subject, I think this diagram illustrates the point better than mere words can.

http://imgur.com/EzYwS.jpg

So if Indians are so stupid that they think they're more likely to get killed here in Oz than they are in their own backyard, then they shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a visa in the first place.

WillBlack Jan 9th 2010 4:35 pm
Re: Why? See thread for more details.
 
And here it is in murders per capita.

# 26 India: 0.0344083 per 1,000 people
# 43 Australia: 0.0150324 per 1,000 people

India / Australia = 0.0344083 / 0.0150324 = 2.288942551

moneypenny20 Jan 9th 2010 4:45 pm
Re: Why? See thread for more details.
 
Originally Posted by Hutch (Post 8233704)
It's utterly utterly hilarious, the Indians getting on their high horses about this. But rather than posit my own views on the subject, I think this diagram illustrates the point better than mere words can.

http://imgur.com/EzYwS.jpg

So if Indians are so stupid that they think they're more likely to get killed here in Oz than they are in their own backyard, then they shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a visa in the first place.
If an Indian kills an Indian in India, is it racist? Don't different castes hate each other and kill each other? Is that racist or is there such a thing as castist?

WillBlack Jan 9th 2010 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8233728)
If an Indian kills an Indian in India, is it racist? Don't different castes hate each other and kill each other? Is that racist or is there such a thing as castist?
Humanist?

Dorothy Jan 9th 2010 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8233728)
If an Indian kills an Indian in India, is it racist? Don't different castes hate each other and kill each other? Is that racist or is there such a thing as castist?
And if a man kills a woman is that sexist? What about if an Indian man kills an non-Indian woman? Is that sexist or racist?

All these isms just confuse me.

moneypenny20 Jan 9th 2010 7:11 pm
Re: Why? See thread for more details.
 
Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 8233870)
And if a man kills a woman is that sexist? What about if an Indian man kills an non-Indian woman? Is that sexist or racist?

All these isms just confuse me.
If I hate my next door neighbour who happens to be a Kiwi and I decide to kill him, is it a racist killing or a neighbourist killing or if he did something really really wrong would it be justified(ist).

Dorothy Jan 9th 2010 7:22 pm
Re: Why? See thread for more details.
 
Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8233876)
If I hate my next door neighbour who happens to be a Kiwi and I decide to kill him, is it a racist killing or a neighbourist killing or if he did something really really wrong would it be justified(ist).
If it's a man it's definitely justified.

moneypenny20 Jan 9th 2010 7:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 8233890)
If it's a man it's definitely justified.
He's actually really nice, they both are considering they're Kiwis ;). Just wondered, you know, if ever the situation came up, what defence would be the best, that he's a Kiwi, that he's a neighbour or that he did something wrong. Tricky one.

Dorothy Jan 9th 2010 7:30 pm
Re: Why? See thread for more details.
 
Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8233894)
He's actually really nice, they both are considering they're Kiwis ;). Just wondered, you know, if ever the situation came up, what defence would be the best, that he's a Kiwi, that he's a neighbour or that he did something wrong. Tricky one.
Well, last time I killed someone I used the "time of the month" defense. Worked a charm. Now, the time before I tried the "justifiable" defense and had a bit harder time with the jury. Apparently some of the jurors didn't think leaving his socks on the bedroom floor was reason to bludgeon a man to death. :rolleyes:

moneypenny20 Jan 9th 2010 7:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 8233902)
Well, last time I killed someone I used the "time of the month" defense. Worked a charm. Now, the time before I tried the "justifiable" defense and had a bit harder time with the jury. Apparently some of the jurors didn't think leaving his socks on the bedroom floor was reason to bludgeon a man to death. :rolleyes:
Didn't know if that one had been overdone or not. However it could work if I added the bit about him being a Kiwi as well. They'd have to let me off surely:unsure:

TheSun Jan 9th 2010 7:42 pm
Re: Why? See thread for more details.
 
Originally Posted by Hutch (Post 8233704)
It's utterly utterly hilarious, the Indians getting on their high horses about this. But rather than posit my own views on the subject, I think this diagram illustrates the point better than mere words can.

http://imgur.com/EzYwS.jpg

So if Indians are so stupid that they think they're more likely to get killed here in Oz than they are in their own backyard, then they shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a visa in the first place.
interesting that China is not on this list.

newjersey Jan 9th 2010 8:00 pm
Re: Why? See thread for more details.
 
Originally Posted by TheSun (Post 8233918)
interesting that China is not on this list.
hard stats are not available is my guess. Having said that, Chinese government has got a hang of executing its own electoral base, left and right. ;) What category would that fall into?

newjersey Jan 9th 2010 8:07 pm
Re: Why? See thread for more details.
 
Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 8233870)
And if a man kills a woman is that sexist? What about if an Indian man kills an non-Indian woman? Is that sexist or racist?

All these isms just confuse me.
All these -isms help create a perception that any situation can be described and fit into categories as easy as one-two-three, without actually trying to understand what went down. To some it appears to be giving a feel that they are in control, to others it means they know everything and can preach to the rest (media included).

ABCDiamond Jan 9th 2010 9:11 pm
Re: Why? See thread for more details.
 
Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 8233890)
If it's a man it's definitely justified.
That is definitely sexist and wrong

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 8233902)
Well, last time I killed someone I used the "time of the month" defense. Worked a charm. Now, the time before I tried the "justifiable" defense and had a bit harder time with the jury. Apparently some of the jurors didn't think leaving his socks on the bedroom floor was reason to bludgeon a man to death. :rolleyes:
But we don't really mind what you say... really ...:eek:

SecretHero Jan 10th 2010 6:14 am
Re: Is Australia still safe for Indians
 
Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8233672)
You will find there are very few who say that.
I didn’t think there would be plenty (but still enough to cause issues). Otherwise the Australia wouldn’t be an immigrant country.

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8233672)
..racism, and is generally aimed more at the British, than it would be to Indians.
Hard to believe.
I always heard the other way around. I am not focusing on Indians. I am looking at all minorities.


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