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Old Jul 17th 2009, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by Pollyana
It was a classic wasn't it



Not a chance, this one has to be a pommy victory surely
You changed camps?

We were all deceived by the very poor Aussie bowling that gifted us 200 runs in the first innings into believing it was a high scoring pitch.

Once they got their act together they bowled us out for around the 200, which seems like a par score as the Aussies wont get more than that.

Weather forecast says a draw unfortunately.

Had the appeal system been in the Aussies would have appealed Ponting's wicket and won, we would have counter appealed he would have been out.

This hasn't stopped the age whinging of course that the appeal system had it of been in would have saved him, with no mention of the fact that it was plumb lbw.
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You changed camps?

We were all deceived by the very poor Aussie bowling that gifted us 200 runs in the first innings into believing it was a high scoring pitch.

Once they got their act together they bowled us out for around the 200, which seems like a par score as the Aussies wont get more than that.

Weather forecast says a draw unfortunately.

Had the appeal system been in the Aussies would have appealed Ponting's wicket and won, we would have counter appealed he would have been out.

This hasn't stopped the age whinging of course that the appeal system had it of been in would have saved him, with no mention of the fact that it was plumb lbw.
yeah, loved it when I heard Shane Warne, Greg Matthews and Damien Martyn all saying that he was unlucky??????? "The ball was clearly missing leg stump"
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yeah, loved it when I heard Shane Warne, Greg Matthews and Damien Martyn all saying that he was unlucky??????? "The ball was clearly missing leg stump"
I believe "sliding wide" were Warnies words, I thought it was totally tongue in cheek though to be honest.
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I believe "sliding wide" were Warnies words, I thought it was totally tongue in cheek though to be honest.
Yes, I think you're right Warne's comments were aimed to fire up Athers. Not so sure about Matthews' and Martyn's though
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So good I needed to post it twice
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Poms lead by 210 runs and have chosen to enforce the follow on. A good decision; they'll win it easily now.

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Whoops, no they haven't! I misread the BBC commentary. Strauss has declined to enforce the follow on! How strange.

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Poms lead by 210 runs and have chosen to enforce the follow on. A good decision; they'll win it easily now.

No follow on and a bad decision as far as I'm concerned especially with the threat of lost time.
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No follow on and a bad decision as far as I'm concerned especially with the threat of lost time.
Yeah, I am gobsmacked to say the least.

On the other hand, they can clock up another 400+ and leave themselves with two days to bowl us out, so I don't see any danger of a second draw. Still an odd move by Strauss though.
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No follow on and a bad decision as far as I'm concerned especially with the threat of lost time.
I think it's a fair decision. Strauss knows that Australia are carrying 2 bowlers - Johnson (just be proved again) and Hauritz and therefore have a weakened attack. If England get quick runs - which they aredoing, then Australia will have to bat for 2 days to save the game - not going to happen, unless it's rained off.
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what a pic!!!!!!!!!!!! Absolutely love it!
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Originally Posted by fraser
No follow on and a bad decision as far as I'm concerned especially with the threat of lost time.
I disagree. I think he has done the right thing here. With rain scheduled for Sunday and Monday (making for good bowling conditions if any play happens) and today being blue skies it is ideal to be batting right now. I say make the most of it being a batsmen's day. The ball was not moving this morning for the England bowlers and I can guarantee that in those conditions there is no way Ponting and Katich would be getting out cheaply again. I think it was the right decision
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
I think it's a fair decision. Strauss knows that Australia are carrying 2 bowlers - Johnson (just be proved again) and Hauritz and therefore have a weakened attack. If England get quick runs - which they aredoing, then Australia will have to bat for 2 days to save the game - not going to happen, unless it's rained off.
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In fact, what I like most about that image is not the pic, more the word in the actual link that is incredibly spot on in its description of Pricky Ponting
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Nope, disagree. Draw far more likely now. Strauss won't declare until lunch tomorrow at the earliest. That leaves five sessions on a good pitch to get 10 Australian wickets. If rain knocks out one of those sessions then it'll be pretty easy for Australia to save the game.

With the follow on, even if Australia scored five hundred, England would have had three sessions to get 300. Doable, and every run less than 500 that Australia got then the job would be easier and easier for England.

Still let's see what happens. If Strauss really wants to win the game now he needs to get a lead of 500-550 by this evening and declare. Two full days to bowl out the Aussies. He won't do it though. He left the declaration too late twice in the West Indies. He'll probably get it wrong here too.
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