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Beoz Feb 2nd 2017 1:29 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12169588)
Do you think Trump bullied PM May into giving him a State reception? Is May weak? They expect 1mn protesters, how is May going to deal with that?

1 million of these nutbags could be quite a handful.


Swerv-o Feb 2nd 2017 1:31 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12169588)
Do you think Trump bullied PM May into giving him a State reception? Is May weak? They expect 1mn protesters, how is May going to deal with that?


State visit means state visit?

Roll up her sleeves and get on with the state visit job?


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scrubbedexpat098 Feb 2nd 2017 1:47 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 
I can't shake the feeling that what Trump did with Trumble was to basically say 'this special relationship, it was always rubbish, just did it to make you feel better about yourselves' and I think he'll do the same with May. He certainly knows nothing of diplomacy. But then diplomacy seems like little more than arse kissing and lying.

Beoz Feb 2nd 2017 1:50 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 

Originally Posted by stevenglish1 (Post 12169608)
I can't shake the feeling that what Trump did with Trumble was to basically say 'this special relationship, it was always rubbish, just did it to make you feel better about yourselves' and I think he'll do the same with May. He certainly knows nothing of diplomacy. But then diplomacy seems like little more than arse kissing and lying.

Exactly. I'm sure he can be diplomatic when a deal is being done.

Swerv-o Feb 2nd 2017 2:07 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 

Originally Posted by stevenglish1 (Post 12169608)
I can't shake the feeling that what Trump did with Trumble was to basically say 'this special relationship, it was always rubbish, just did it to make you feel better about yourselves' and I think he'll do the same with May. He certainly knows nothing of diplomacy. But then diplomacy seems like little more than arse kissing and lying.


And quite a lot of mutual back scratching.

Trump has May exactly where he wants her - in a huge position of weakness. She needs a deal much more than he does.


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Beoz Feb 2nd 2017 2:21 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 
I bet Mal never thought he ever have to work with Hockey again.

I bet Hockey thought he would never have to work again.

Ouch

Swerv-o Feb 2nd 2017 2:22 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12169630)
I bet Mal never thought he ever have to work with Hockey again.

I bet Hockey thought he would never have to work again.

Ouch


I can't help thinking that ambassadorships are really for professional diplomats, not failed politicians...


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Beoz Feb 2nd 2017 2:49 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 12169631)
I can't help thinking that ambassadorships are really for professional diplomats, not failed politicians...


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There seems to be a pattern.

Firstly you get made foreign minister and if that doesn't work its ambassador.

The US is supposed to be the easiest one. Not anymore

Swerv-o Feb 2nd 2017 2:57 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12169641)
There seems to be a pattern.

Firstly you get made foreign minister and if that doesn't work its ambassador.

The US is supposed to be the easiest one. Not anymore


I don't really blame Trump for not wanting to take our unwanted refugees - but the way that he's gone about it is disastrous - and the fact that this account has been made public - and then tweeted about by Trump himself is even worse. This should have been resolved quietly, behind closed doors.

It makes me wonder how he will respond when he's on the phone to Xi Jinping if he is going to hang up on a pretty seasoned ally in this way. Luckily the Chinese have moved all of their mobile ICBMs within striking distance of the US, and aren't contesting ownership of the South China Seas. Oh wait...


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GarryP Feb 2nd 2017 3:05 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12169641)
The US is supposed to be the easiest one. Not anymore

Hey, something we agree on !

Trump is going to be a nightmare for whatever ambassador is in Washington, and someone as essentially clueless as Hockey is going be like a one legged man at an arse kicking contest.

Actually, I'm thinking that a good looking woman mightn't be a good fit for that role - at least until Trump is jailed.

moneypenny20 Feb 2nd 2017 3:09 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 12169645)
Hey, something we agree on !

Trump is going to be a nightmare for whatever ambassador is in Washington, and someone as essentially clueless as Hockey is going be like a one legged man at an arse kicking contest.

Actually, I'm thinking that a good looking woman mightn't be a good fit for that role - at least until Trump is jailed.

It might still be the easiest. As long as he goes in with the realisation that Trump will ignore him, he can just sit back and watch. Well until Trump signs some random EO that means all Australians must leave for some bizarre reason.

Swerv-o Feb 2nd 2017 3:20 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12169646)
It might still be the easiest. As long as he goes in with the realisation that Trump will ignore him, he can just sit back and watch. Well until Trump signs some random EO that means all Australians must leave for some bizarre reason.


Anything can happen - apparently he's today relaxed sanctions on the Russian FSB...

Trump relaxes sanctions on KGB successor - AMERICAblog News


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Beoz Feb 2nd 2017 3:31 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 12169642)
I don't really blame Trump for not wanting to take our unwanted refugees - but the way that he's gone about it is disastrous - and the fact that this account has been made public - and then tweeted about by Trump himself is even worse. This should have been resolved quietly, behind closed doors.

It makes me wonder how he will respond when he's on the phone to Xi Jinping if he is going to hang up on a pretty seasoned ally in this way. Luckily the Chinese have moved all of their mobile ICBMs within striking distance of the US, and aren't contesting ownership of the South China Seas. Oh wait...


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Then what would have to talk about?

His lack of political tradition is awesome. Its transparent and to the point.

To admit that the refugee deal will "politically kill him" ...... outstanding stuff. At least he's trying to give the voters what they voted for.

So are we back on track with the refugee deal?

OzTennis Feb 2nd 2017 7:31 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12169654)
Then what would have to talk about?

His lack of political tradition is awesome. Its transparent and to the point.

To admit that the refugee deal will "politically kill him" ...... outstanding stuff. At least he's trying to give the voters what they voted for.

So are we back on track with the refugee deal?

How can a lack of experience be touted as a plus and then said it equals transparency? I would guess if someone from the other end of the political spectrum became leader of the most powerful nation on earth via failed business experience (4 times with his hotel business plus airline and soccer team) and reality tv that you wouldn't find it refreshing and transparent and to the point? (just like you think a world leader tweeting insults and making up policy as he goes is hip or cool or desirable)

Beoz Feb 2nd 2017 7:48 pm

Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
 

Originally Posted by OzTennis (Post 12169708)
How can a lack of experience be touted as a plus and then said it equals transparency? I would guess if someone from the other end of the political spectrum became leader of the most powerful nation on earth via failed business experience (4 times with his hotel business plus airline and soccer team) and reality tv that you wouldn't find it refreshing and transparent and to the point? (just like you think a world leader tweeting insults and making up policy as he goes is hip or cool or desirable)

You see teach, as you've always worked for the man all your life, you only know how to run students. ...... have you made mistakes running students? Of course you have. Did you learn from those mistakes? Of course you did.

Therefore.........

I would rather someone who has failed in some but succeeded in many running my country than someone who hasn't experience failure at all. One experience to the next sport.

Have a happy day.


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