Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
#31
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Ok I just dug out the paper and it does say before breakfast so I must have read the bit about the time period after food elsewhere. I take mine at night so that I don't take it right after food, as I take some other scary stuff on a morning that I can't take near food, and I have to fit a lot of calcium into my schedule (osteoporosis).
I read that you should take it either half an hour before food or at least two hours after, but Dr B just says:
It has to be taken 25 minutes before breakfast with a glass of water. Avoid taking iron supplements and calcium as well as orange juice with the capsule, as they impair absorption.
(I can scan the handout later from my other comp if anybody wants it, but it includes info about experimenting with and increasing the dosage, and I'd hate it to contradict anything your own doctor has told you. Let me know if you'd still like it.)
I read that you should take it either half an hour before food or at least two hours after, but Dr B just says:
It has to be taken 25 minutes before breakfast with a glass of water. Avoid taking iron supplements and calcium as well as orange juice with the capsule, as they impair absorption.
(I can scan the handout later from my other comp if anybody wants it, but it includes info about experimenting with and increasing the dosage, and I'd hate it to contradict anything your own doctor has told you. Let me know if you'd still like it.)
Yep ,it would be good if you could scan it 4 me.
cheers Donna
#32
It is alot but Dr B said I would level out on around 500mg a day so she was right. I feel so much better and my skin and hair are back to a good condition again. My weight is finally starting to drop off which I am very pleased about.
Dr B has been my lifesaver and i am so glad she squeezed me in for an appointment to see her.
Dr B has been my lifesaver and i am so glad she squeezed me in for an appointment to see her.
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Questions from Nic.
Can you take the pig at night? The only instructions she has are that it has to be taken in the morn. Just wondering if this is adhered to by all ?!? Reason being she takes other meds in the morn and wants to do the thyroid one like the other (Thyroxine)
T3, the piggy stuff, is short acting. Unlike the T4 (thyroxine) she's been taking, it doesn't need to convert in the cells to T3. It already IS T3 (though there's a small amount of T4 in the piggy stuff too, but mainly it's T3). Therefore, if you take it at night, it's straight into the cells and it will probably keep you pretty restless all night. It'll boost your thyroid and keep you awake. It should really only be taken in the morning before food, only with water. It should be straight into cells within about 20 mins. You need the energy from it during the day. Some people split their dose and take half in the morning and half at about 3pm. Or they take two full doses per day, morning and afternoon. Ideally, you don't want your body kicking up in the middle of the night because you need your sleep. You're taking T3 because of the 'direct to cell' effect. It means there's little or no conversion for your body. It's like an intravenous drip of good stuff straight to your cells.
With the Thyroxine she couldn't eat either side of taking it. 1 hour this way, 2 the other, or to that effect, but there's been no mention of any kind of regime for the ole pig one ...
No food half an hour to an hour after taking it. It depends on your digestion really but def over half an hour. Keep it by the bed, take it on waking, get in the shower, get dressed - by the time you've done all that, you can eat. Easy.
Can it be taken on it's own, last thing at night with a glass of water I guess is my overall question?
See my initial answer. :)
Can you take the pig at night? The only instructions she has are that it has to be taken in the morn. Just wondering if this is adhered to by all ?!? Reason being she takes other meds in the morn and wants to do the thyroid one like the other (Thyroxine)
T3, the piggy stuff, is short acting. Unlike the T4 (thyroxine) she's been taking, it doesn't need to convert in the cells to T3. It already IS T3 (though there's a small amount of T4 in the piggy stuff too, but mainly it's T3). Therefore, if you take it at night, it's straight into the cells and it will probably keep you pretty restless all night. It'll boost your thyroid and keep you awake. It should really only be taken in the morning before food, only with water. It should be straight into cells within about 20 mins. You need the energy from it during the day. Some people split their dose and take half in the morning and half at about 3pm. Or they take two full doses per day, morning and afternoon. Ideally, you don't want your body kicking up in the middle of the night because you need your sleep. You're taking T3 because of the 'direct to cell' effect. It means there's little or no conversion for your body. It's like an intravenous drip of good stuff straight to your cells.
With the Thyroxine she couldn't eat either side of taking it. 1 hour this way, 2 the other, or to that effect, but there's been no mention of any kind of regime for the ole pig one ...

No food half an hour to an hour after taking it. It depends on your digestion really but def over half an hour. Keep it by the bed, take it on waking, get in the shower, get dressed - by the time you've done all that, you can eat. Easy.
Can it be taken on it's own, last thing at night with a glass of water I guess is my overall question?
See my initial answer. :)
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Well Dr B told me to take mine around 8:30 every morning and an hour before food and never take them with fruit juice or coffee only water. Thats what is on the bottle of tablets as well. Hope that helps a bit.
Just to add I take 480mg of the natural thryroid (the pig one) a day now.
Kerry
Just to add I take 480mg of the natural thryroid (the pig one) a day now.
Kerry
Prob 480mcg?
#37
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Hmm, must check with Dr B when I go for my results. Doesn't keep me awake but I get the theory.
I don't think I'm anywhere near as bad as a lot of you ladies though. TBH I'd rather not take any, but I can't seem to get the herbal stuff I got in Singapore.
I've stopped the cortisol. Something was giving me terrible headaches and I'm trying to work out what. My skin is pretty bad too - never had spots as a teenager, got them in my forties instead.
I don't think I'm anywhere near as bad as a lot of you ladies though. TBH I'd rather not take any, but I can't seem to get the herbal stuff I got in Singapore.
I've stopped the cortisol. Something was giving me terrible headaches and I'm trying to work out what. My skin is pretty bad too - never had spots as a teenager, got them in my forties instead.
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Instructions with keeping T4 in fridge extremely dodgy anyway... most doctors find the instructions confusing!!!
Something along the lines of 'Store in fridge before opening, then when opened, keep out of fridge'.
Makes no sense whatsoever.
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I've never seen so many with underactive Thyroids. Thought i was the only one at one point!
May i ask... I hope i dont offend but, at what age did you find out you had the thyroid problem? As i have only met one other person who found it out as young as i was.
May i ask... I hope i dont offend but, at what age did you find out you had the thyroid problem? As i have only met one other person who found it out as young as i was.
#43
I wandered into the original thread as I felt lousy and was looking for an answer...... Still looking.
Been really stressed since coming to Perth 19 months ago. Was suffering from bad PMS so decided to see a homeopath. He did an all over test and said that I had a hormone imbalance (shock), my thyroid wasn't working correctly and he thought I could also be glucose intolerant. Very vague really and all he offered were "magic drops." I tried the magic drops for a few months but tbh don't really notice much difference. He also suggested I use yam cream for 3 weeks of the month - this I think may have helped as I no longer have tender breasts.
I've gained about 10 kilos, despite the fact that my OH says I don't eat enough to feed a 5 year old. We bought a wonderful bed but I awake in the morning feeling worse than I did when I went to bed. My back aches like an old woman (I'm 44 but feel 74). My BMI is 29 so I'm overweight but not obese, yet I get breathless if I talk to anyone while walking up one flight of stairs.
My hair is dry - I blamed the hairdresser for the bleach. I have to wash and condition it every day. My skin is dry. I moisturise every day too. I blamed that on the sun.
I've tried meal replacements in a desperate bid to lose weight. I have currently stopped gaining weight - but alas - no weight loss.
My mum has an underactive thyroid but her tests are always "borderline". Her sister had lots of problems and eventually had her thyroid removed. She now has really protruding eyes.
I know I'm healthy really and don't suffer anything like you ladies but I just thought I'd share my story too.
For the record - I've never been tested for thyroid problems.
Been really stressed since coming to Perth 19 months ago. Was suffering from bad PMS so decided to see a homeopath. He did an all over test and said that I had a hormone imbalance (shock), my thyroid wasn't working correctly and he thought I could also be glucose intolerant. Very vague really and all he offered were "magic drops." I tried the magic drops for a few months but tbh don't really notice much difference. He also suggested I use yam cream for 3 weeks of the month - this I think may have helped as I no longer have tender breasts.
I've gained about 10 kilos, despite the fact that my OH says I don't eat enough to feed a 5 year old. We bought a wonderful bed but I awake in the morning feeling worse than I did when I went to bed. My back aches like an old woman (I'm 44 but feel 74). My BMI is 29 so I'm overweight but not obese, yet I get breathless if I talk to anyone while walking up one flight of stairs.
My hair is dry - I blamed the hairdresser for the bleach. I have to wash and condition it every day. My skin is dry. I moisturise every day too. I blamed that on the sun.
I've tried meal replacements in a desperate bid to lose weight. I have currently stopped gaining weight - but alas - no weight loss.
My mum has an underactive thyroid but her tests are always "borderline". Her sister had lots of problems and eventually had her thyroid removed. She now has really protruding eyes.
I know I'm healthy really and don't suffer anything like you ladies but I just thought I'd share my story too.
For the record - I've never been tested for thyroid problems.
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I was diagnosed in my early forties but my doc thought I'd been that way for some time. Standard tests are in range so it takes a doctor who thinks outside the box to admit I have a thyroid problem. I'd put it all down to an early (surgical) menopause.
midgetjan, you sound exactly how I was when I first got diagnosed. I still have off times but on the whole am much, much better.
I don't eat enough (or badly enough) to weigh this much either.
midgetjan, you sound exactly how I was when I first got diagnosed. I still have off times but on the whole am much, much better.
I don't eat enough (or badly enough) to weigh this much either.
#45
It's a bitch eh?
Meant to add - I'm carrying all my extra weight exactly where I shouldn't be - all around my middle.
Meant to add - I'm carrying all my extra weight exactly where I shouldn't be - all around my middle.
Last edited by midgetjan; Feb 11th 2009 at 10:03 pm. Reason: Forgetful too........





