Please don't. We can't afford housing anymore, and more wealthy brits arriving than we can accommodate isn't going to help. Stay where you are and sort out the problems in your own country rather than running from them.

Is this one of those "fluck off, we're full" kind of messages

Your theory has holes in it. Without the immigrants your country will not have the skills it requires nor the population growth to sustain itself against outside competition.

If it's any consolation, what you're experiencing is happening worldwide. The various wars we've been involved in have finally come back to haunt us.

Things will get better. Eventually

Wealthy Brits?....PMSL at that one. I guess >400,000 cashed up Kiwis doesn't help much either.

p.s. but thanks anyway for the tax breaks.

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just as well your forefathers didn't think the same, unless of course you are actually indigenous Australian? I employ 12 locals so do my bit for the economy, what about you? (oh and by the way thanks for the big house and pool - didn't realise they'd give it to me for free just because I migrated here!)

Not really that kind of message, no. But when your brother and his family of three young children is being pushed out of accommodation because an English family has purchased the property is arriving in two weeks, I guess there is an element of that.

Our country does not have the "skills" it requires due to the systematic erosion of funding in education and training due to the policies of the previous government (RIP). Business has lobbied hard to address the "skills" deficit with immigration rather than training and development. Hopefully that economic mistake is currently being re-evaluated.

Population growth has generally been stifled by a number of factors but housing affordability is known to be a major hurdle. Driven in part by structural tax and finance problems, housing affordability is being worsened more rapidly by immigration, particularly of the affluent kind.

Things will get better, I hope by a recognition that immigration is an unsustainable 'quick-fix' to "skills" shortages and population decline.

I'd say Migration is an absolute must for creating demand for badly needed infrastructure in this country. Especially water supply. They had over 20 years to fix it in Victoria and did stuff all until now.

Where are you situated, theres not too many affluent English people moving in around me, in fact I've never seen one. That hasn't stopped the Median price in my area reaching plus 600,000.

What a PRAT. !



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Maybe there wouldn't be a skills shortage if all the Aussies didn't piss off to London to work. Or Singapore. Or any other number of Asian countries where they too are immigrants.

May I suggest you direct your anger to the person selling the property, not the one buying it.

FYI I run to things, not from them.

Hi Angry,
Quick question first up - why bother posting these concerns on this forum instead of going to you local member who is in a better position to raise your points to those who formulate the decision making process?
I was neither pro the last government or anti this one and neither had much to do with the reasons for the skills shortage. The last government has put in various schemes, training etc to address the shortage of skills and the current government is continuing with them. No government is to blame for that though, it is industry who in short sightedness and savings who lacked the foresight to keep up with new apprentices and enticements to keep people within their industries. Combine that with a more mobile workforce, growing infrastructure and any country will be facing the same problems.
Population growth does not affect the housing affordability. Population growth does drive development and thus housing prices, which is a good thing not a bad one. Finance problems are a personal thing and nothing to do with who is in government nor immigration. If a person cannot get finance that is to do with their situation. Immigration stimulates growth within the economy at the local and national level, which leads onto a more fiscal and robust state of affairs in areas other then the financial ones.
Housing prices are due to demand and supply, the same things that drive the stimulus for all our dealings. Are we to blame the immigrants because beer or the price of vegetables are rising because they are consuming more and the manufactures are inflating prices to keep up?
This is a very basic view and no where near explaining the myriad of factors involved in such a complex subject as economic growth and stimulus as affected by all the various factors and variables that go into it. No country has ever gone ahead by stopping immigration, just the opposite the most successful go ahead by not stifling immigration too much.

Ken

You got tax breaks?

Absolutely and wholeheartedly agree. Thanks for that Wilga, saved me alot of typing.

Maybe...but i wonder what Aus would be like if it weren't for us immigrants. Not half the place it is today.

I can see why you'd be angry about it - but just because it was an English family in this instance, doesn't mean Australia doesn't need immigrants. It could easily have been an Australian family that bought the house your brother lived in - who would you have railed against then?

What your argument fails to recognise is that aussies aren't breeding quickly enough to build the population base required to support a rapidly ageing population. If immigration was called to a full halt right now, in 20 years time there wouldn't be enough tax payers to support public services or health workers to look after the rapidly growing portion of this society that is made up by the eldery. If it's any consolation it's a worldwide issue, one which affects the UK and America just as much as it does Oz.

Sorry to burst your bubble but the days of the cashed up pom are well and truly over. The vast majority of people come to this country with enough cash to set themselves up but there's only a tiny percentage with enough equity to get the dream home, acreage and boat. It costs most immigrants upwards of £10,000 just to get here - visas run to thousands of dollars, then there's the flights, shipping of personal goods, bonds for rent, purchase of furniture, health care costs, school fees etc etc. Most immigrants from the UK struggle from the beginning and the majority are anything but 'cashed up'.

Immigration is the lifeblood of any country. My Australian father and grandfather moved to the UK and brought useful skills with them. I've moved to Australia and have brought useful skills with me. The government have tried paying Australians to have babies and it has had no effect on the population at all - what else do you think they could try? Forcing people to procreate at gunpoint?

Don't tar everyone with the same brush based on an emotional situation. If it was an Aussie family moving in & pushing your brother out, would you have blamed all Aussies'?

As a matter of fact my son had a lease for 2 years and due to current interest rate rises the Aussies who own his home have put it on the market. This means in less than 6 months my son has had to pay for two sets of removalists, an extra cost he could not afford. Reality is he either moved out amicably or the rent would go up [they already started that game]. Thankfully, my son realises "shit happens" and instead of blaming all Aussies for his situation he accepts these things happen and has moved on.

Agreed there is an element of this, but also there is an arrogance in the Australian workforce mindset that they don't have to compete and it's more important to work with mates than skills for the job. Even skilled migrants are being pushed to the back of the que for skilled jobs, working in under skilled roles until it's accepted they have been here long enough to be worthy of the roles they have come here to do. I can't count the number of skilled migrants who are working in shitty jobs whilst far less expereienced and far lesser qualified people are in the better jobs. The skilled migrants moan of course especially since the perception is Australia needs to improve it's economic strength, however most accept and get on with it. That's how the cookie crumbles. If you want to live in this fantastic country you put up with the shit, including some covert racists who treat migrants differently in this very subtle way.

Actually if it wasn't for the migrants, including Poms, investing in property in Aus then the economy would be in the shit. The minute you pull out all the extra cash brought in by migrants, employment would be affected as well as serious cash flow within the economy. Having said that, don't be fooled by the old story that migrants are loaded. That's a crock of shit spouted by jealous one dimentional people who have no idea what it has cost a migrant to change their life and move to the other end of the world and start all over again, often in far lesser quality housing and shitty jobs than they had in UK. It is rather arrogant of you to assume people leave UK due to be pushed, rather than being "pulled" to Aus.

And I hope people like you learn to accept Australia needs help to bring it to European standards in order to improve and compete against the likes of China and India.

At the end of the day, mateship is not what counts in business or politics ...but an appreciation of hard work and skills. Australia has not got the skills nor the money to have the choice not to accept migrants.

You should think yourself lucky immigrants want to live here and that they are prepared to invest everything they have got, or ever had, in your beautiful country.

Us poor migrant workers on temp visas can claim the LAFHA's through their employers