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Beoz Oct 8th 2015 10:31 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11768366)
Is Blu-ray even good enough for 4K TVs? I was under the impression that the technological world still has a battle on its hands to move people from DVD to Blu-ray, and even before DVD has been ditched as an "old standard" we are already ditching Full HD TVs for 4K? :)

I do realise that this is what's being sold now. But I still think it's a case of technological overkill given the lack of content. Fair enough, if someone is buying a new TV anyway (old one kicked the bucket) then they might as well pick up a 4K telly. But if someone has a good TV already with Full HD then I think there is ZERO reason to upgrade at this point in time.

I traded out my old 1080p for a 4K. Just go into JB or Half Normal and see a 4K along side a 1080p running a HD or Blue Ray feed. You be the judge.

astera Oct 8th 2015 11:01 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11768391)
I traded out my old 1080p for a 4K. Just go into JB or Half Normal and see a 4K along side a 1080p running a HD or Blue Ray feed. You be the judge.

Interesting. I'll take your word for it and will jump to 4K with my next purchase. Can you see the difference on a regular Blu-ray or only on the special ones that were mastered for 4K or something like that?

Also, did you trade in your old tv just to get 4K or because it was a really old model, etc.?

Beoz Oct 8th 2015 11:59 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11768421)
Interesting. I'll take your word for it and will jump to 4K with my next purchase. Can you see the difference on a regular Blu-ray or only on the special ones that were mastered for 4K or something like that?

Also, did you trade in your old tv just to get 4K or because it was a really old model, etc.?

The only time I have watched it on blue ray was in the shop. Otherwise I don't have a blue ray and with streaming can't see a compelling reason to get one.

I just watched a Stan stream of Bond. The picture quality is that good that M looks like a wrinkled old prune and I can cleary see Daniel Craig's adolescent pimple holes. HD feeds are excellent but I will warn you, standard def is poor.

No trade in. Second hand TV's are not worth anything. Its now the bedroom TV. I think I posted a write of it somewhere on BE. Search Samsung.

GarryP Oct 9th 2015 1:56 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11768421)
Interesting. I'll take your word for it and will jump to 4K with my next purchase. Can you see the difference on a regular Blu-ray or only on the special ones that were mastered for 4K or something like that?

4K BluRays are supposed to be coming out soon(ish), but with new DRM, the need for new players, etc.

In all likelihood they won't do well against the streamed alternatives using HEVC to squash down the 4K stream to smaller sizes. The reality is that unless you have a projector, you can't really see 4K on your conventional 4K LCD TV, so they will probably push up the compression and buffering to keep the bandwidth needed down (maybe twice that of 1080p). Take will also probably make it credible to stream over ADSL (provided your speed is high) or FTTN.

Absolutely no sign of DVB catching up any time soon - which is a pity since 60fps 4K sports is about the only valid use of Freeview going forward.

Beoz Oct 9th 2015 3:20 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 11768895)
4K BluRays are supposed to be coming out soon(ish), but with new DRM, the need for new players, etc.

In all likelihood they won't do well against the streamed alternatives using HEVC to squash down the 4K stream to smaller sizes. The reality is that unless you have a projector, you can't really see 4K on your conventional 4K LCD TV, so they will probably push up the compression and buffering to keep the bandwidth needed down (maybe twice that of 1080p). Take will also probably make it credible to stream over ADSL (provided your speed is high) or FTTN.

Absolutely no sign of DVB catching up any time soon - which is a pity since 60fps 4K sports is about the only valid use of Freeview going forward.

No doubt they keep you locked away in the IT closet and away from explaining tech to the bean counters? :)

GarryP Oct 9th 2015 4:37 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11768914)
No doubt they keep you locked away in the IT closet and away from explaining tech to the bean counters? :)

If I were explaining tech to the bean counters it would either be:
"This will make money"
or
"This will save money"
they really aren't smart enough for anything else :egyptian:

Amazulu Oct 15th 2015 7:25 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 
Telstra TV has launched:
Hands on: Telstra TV

$109 for a rebadged Roku 2 - no thanks

I was going to dismiss this box out of hand but on thinking about it, reckon it's a bit of a way forward. It will bring streaming options to people who are technically clueless and confused with what's currently on offer, increasing the user base and driving another nail into the coffin of terrestrial TV

Telstra is a waste of space company but they do have a knack of appealing to the masses - and they pay good dividends

Beoz Oct 15th 2015 7:48 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11773113)
Telstra TV has launched:
Hands on: Telstra TV

$109 for a rebadged Roku 2 - no thanks

I was going to dismiss this box out of hand but on thinking about it, reckon it's a bit of a way forward. It will bring streaming options to people who are technically clueless and confused with what's currently on offer, increasing the user base and driving another nail into the coffin of terrestrial TV

Telstra is a waste of space company but they do have a knack of appealing to the masses - and they pay good dividends

Oh yes. Their appeal is safety and people pay through the nose for that.

GarryP Oct 15th 2015 8:34 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11773120)
Oh yes. Their appeal is safety and people pay through the nose for that.

Pretty daft to try and get $109 for it, when the exact same model is £15 ($30) in the UK for the same type of offering. And pretty poor they don't have ABC out of the box.

Amazulu Oct 28th 2015 5:10 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 
Enjoyed the 1st episode of The Last Kingdom on BBC iplayer last night. Set in 10th century England and deals with Viking invasion, conflict and occupation etc

Ultra violent with a good story and acting - it could turn out to be a low-rent version of GOT

Swerv-o Oct 28th 2015 5:21 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 11773141)
Pretty daft to try and get $109 for it, when the exact same model is £15 ($30) in the UK for the same type of offering. And pretty poor they don't have ABC out of the box.


We got our eval Telstra Box today. Looks like it's a custom build Roku 3 (4200X), not a Roku 2.


S

GarryP Oct 28th 2015 5:35 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 11781856)
We got our eval Telstra Box today. Looks like it's a custom build Roku 3 (4200X), not a Roku 2.


S

Roku 3 and Roku 2 are now the same thing, except the remote changes.

New Roku 2 vs new Roku 3: What's the difference? (Hint - it's the remote) - Pocket-lint

The original NowTV boxes never really got hacked, so I don't hold out much hope of these being gutted and mucked about with.

And I still think the Roku 4 is a much better bet.

astera Oct 28th 2015 5:37 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 
Does the Roku 3 allow you to manually set the picture settings between 50 and 60Hz (or maybe 24P mode as well)?

Swerv-o Oct 28th 2015 5:46 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11781863)
Does the Roku 3 allow you to manually set the picture settings between 50 and 60Hz (or maybe 24P mode as well)?


Doesn't look like it - only 720p vs 1080p. But we still have it hooked up to a monitor - not a TV. I'll update if we get 1080/50p.


S

Amazulu Oct 28th 2015 5:48 pm

Re: Streaming video - my experience
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 11781856)
We got our eval Telstra Box today. Looks like it's a custom build Roku 3 (4200X), not a Roku 2.


S

I'll be interested to know how you get on with it

Did you get it for free?


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