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-   The Barbie (https://britishexpats.com/forum/barbie-92/)
-   -   Streaming video - my experience (https://britishexpats.com/forum/barbie-92/streaming-video-my-experience-815655/)

renth Jul 31st 2015 11:04 pm
Re: Streaming video - my experience
 
Has anyone mentioned Black Mirror yet? Just getting into it on Netflix. OMG the first episode!

Beoz Aug 2nd 2015 12:28 pm
Re: Streaming video - my experience
 
The death of my Foxtel is getting closer. 2 things left. A way to record and a way to watch sport.

http://mobile.news.com.au/technology/home-entertainment/telstra-tv-is-game-changer-streaming-services-need-in-australia/story-fn8tnfhb-1227467220011

Interesting to see Cricket Australia has the streaming app. Now just need one for the rugby.

GarryP Aug 2nd 2015 12:42 pm
Re: Streaming video - my experience
 
Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11714766)
The death of my Foxtel is getting closer. 2 things left. A way to record and a way to watch sport.

Telstra TV is game-changer streaming services need in Australia | News.com.au

Interesting to see Cricket Australia has the streaming app. Now just need one for the rugby.
This seems to be the same as the new NowTV box (eg Roku 2/3), just with a slightly different app load. Time will tell if Telstra put it out at $30, the price the NowTV box will be at.

Also time will tell if you can hack the firmware...

Beoz Aug 2nd 2015 12:59 pm
Re: Streaming video - my experience
 
Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 11714776)
This seems to be the same as the new NowTV box (eg Roku 2/3), just with a slightly different app load. Time will tell if Telstra put it out at $30, the price the NowTV box will be at.

Also time will tell if you can hack the firmware...
Its all changing rapidly. Its interesting to see the FTA networks think they are fine. "Yeah we have reality TV and commercials". That really only sells to a ever declining number of bogans and grey beards.

GarryP Aug 2nd 2015 1:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11714784)
Its all changing rapidly. Its interesting to see the FTA networks think they are fine. "Yeah we have reality TV and commercials". That really only sells to a ever declining number of bogans and grey beards.
They couldn't really tell the truth, could they?
"We are living on borrowed time. The well educated (and thus valuable to advertisers) don't bother with us, and the cashed up plebs will desert to better fare elsewhere. We are left with the poor and dumb - and no advertiser is really bothered with that."
their stock value would drop like a stone, it would be a Ratner moment.

The key element is that the alternatives coming along are global offerings. Their potential population size is immense, eg:

https://support.netflix.com/sites/de...lobalReach.png

North America : 530 million
South America : 388 million
Europe : ~300 million
Oceania: 28 million
= 1.5 billion

And that's before they get stuck in to SE Asia, India and China.

Plenty of scope to grow above 100+ million subscribers without problem. At which point they have the scale to outbid and out invest all national broadcasters or similar. All with no adverts (which people hate).

Frankly, if I were one of the three usual Aussie suspects, I'd be looking to seriously shift my game to both deliver global-ready content AND to deliver local content that people might care about (eg News) that won't work on catchup. Retool the 'GEM', '11' etc. to get setup for that market, in readiness for when they have to dump their main channels entirely.

Beoz Aug 2nd 2015 1:54 pm
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Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 11714790)
They couldn't really tell the truth, could they?
"We are living on borrowed time. The well educated (and thus valuable to advertisers) don't bother with us, and the cashed up plebs will desert to better fare elsewhere. We are left with the poor and dumb - and no advertiser is really bothered with that."
their stock value would drop like a stone, it would be a Ratner moment.

The key element is that the alternatives coming along are global offerings. Their potential population size is immense, eg:

https://support.netflix.com/sites/de...lobalReach.png

North America : 530 million
South America : 388 million
Europe : ~300 million
Oceania: 28 million
= 1.5 billion

And that's before they get stuck in to SE Asia, India and China.

Plenty of scope to grow above 100+ million subscribers without problem. At which point they have the scale to outbid and out invest all national broadcasters or similar. All with no adverts (which people hate).

Frankly, if I were one of the three usual Aussie suspects, I'd be looking to seriously shift my game to both deliver global-ready content AND to deliver local content that people might care about (eg News) that won't work on catchup. Retool the 'GEM', '11' etc. to get setup for that market, in readiness for when they have to dump their main channels entirely.
Only a matter of time before the streaming services realise they can make some cash out of advertising though.

GarryP Aug 2nd 2015 2:02 pm
Re: Streaming video - my experience
 
Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11714797)
Only a matter of time before the streaming services realise they can make some cash out of advertising though.
Not so sure. People hate adverts and they interrupt the show.

I think they may rather go the 'sponsored show' route - particularly if the usual ad supported commercial networks fade away. It's much less objectionable to have 10 secs as part of the title sequence than 3 mins at multiple points during the show. Plus, of course, product placement.

Thought occurs - maybe the Oz networks should have a reality show with winner revamping the line up for a year....

Beoz Aug 2nd 2015 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 11714801)
Not so sure. People hate adverts and they interrupt the show.

I think they may rather go the 'sponsored show' route - particularly if the usual ad supported commercial networks fade away. It's much less objectionable to have 10 secs as part of the title sequence than 3 mins at multiple points during the show. Plus, of course, product placement.

Thought occurs - maybe the Oz networks should have a reality show with winner revamping the line up for a year....
Yeah exactly. Can't see it being traditional TV ad breaks, instead in the sponsor route you fly in fly out banner. Something a little less intrusive but more subliminal.

Amazulu Aug 2nd 2015 5:00 pm
Re: Streaming video - my experience
 
Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11714797)
Only a matter of time before the streaming services realise they can make some cash out of advertising though.
Hulu already do and as they are for a US audience, they are for shit you can't buy

Interestingly, on Windows at least, they sometimes give you the option to watch a 60sec ad at the beginning of a show instead of multiple ads during. They also often allow you to choose what ads you want to watch - so car ads instead of insurance for example

Amazulu Aug 3rd 2015 5:02 pm
Re: Streaming video - my experience
 
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 11712644)
Thats my problem actually, I get more enjoyment out of tinkering (snigger) with my devices than I do watching shows.
Yeah, I also like the technical aspect of cord-cutting. I now have too many devices that are surplus to requirements!

I've got them all - Roku (x2), Amazon Fire TV and Stick, Chromecast, WDTV etc. All good devices but none have the do-it-all capability of a HTPC

Amazulu Aug 3rd 2015 5:04 pm
Re: Streaming video - my experience
 
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 11712434)
My first realisation was only recent as well.... probably 3 or 4 months back, when I saw that Lilly Tomlin, Jane Fonda and co terrific drama/comedy on Netflix.
Yes, loads of big stars now making shows on streaming services

Maybe Hollywood should be worried too

Amazulu Aug 3rd 2015 5:07 pm
Re: Streaming video - my experience
 
Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11714766)
The death of my Foxtel is getting closer. 2 things left. A way to record and a way to watch sport.

Telstra TV is game-changer streaming services need in Australia | News.com.au

Interesting to see Cricket Australia has the streaming app. Now just need one for the rugby.
When streaming services inevitably get major sports onboard then it is safe to say that it will be game over for terrestrial and satellite/cable providers. This is the only area where they still have an advantage - and the rise of streaming means that sports (and their money) will eventually move there

Amazulu Aug 3rd 2015 5:08 pm
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Originally Posted by renth (Post 11713670)
Has anyone mentioned Black Mirror yet? Just getting into it on Netflix. OMG the first episode!
Yes, seen 2 series of this already

Pretty out there stuff

Amazulu Aug 3rd 2015 5:11 pm
Re: Streaming video - my experience
 
Originally Posted by paulry (Post 11680544)
A new series: Humans on Channel 4. The first episode looks very promising :thumbup:
Good series - if a bit silly

paulry Aug 5th 2015 11:04 pm
Re: Streaming video - my experience
 
Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11715775)
Good series - if a bit silly
But definitely worth watching. :thumbup:

Here's another one coming soon:


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