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Re: Streaming video - my experience
Originally Posted by astera
(Post 11831405)
- only way to pay Netflix without giving them any personal details, you don't even have to register with them
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Re: Streaming video - my experience
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11831443)
You can buy the service using gift cards and use a throwaway email address if you want to keep them away from personal details (except that you like to watch trashy american shows at 10pm on a Thursday - Netflix and Chill)
When paying with iTunes you can always stop your subscription at the end of your monthly billing cycle (for instance when going away on a holiday) and then resume it at a later time. |
Re: Streaming video - my experience
Originally Posted by astera
(Post 11831405)
The newer one has some decent storage but you cannot download films/shows to it, so it's primarily used for... apps/games. Bit of a waste if you want to use it just for tv purposes.
Regarding using it for Netflix, I think it's the best/easiest way to go about it: - only way to pay Netflix and get a 20% (or higher) discount every month - only way to pay Netflix without giving them any personal details, you don't even have to register with them - easily switch between 60 and 50Hz modes (60 for US, 50 for UK/Euro) - easiest device to set up Getflix on (unlike the Chromecast or Nexus Player), just one DNS setting to change and that's it - solid interface that lets you search Netflix based on the cast (for instance selecting an actor and seeing all films with him) Can't fault it - it does everything I need it to do and more. No other device gives you ALL of the above. My understanding is that you require the 50/60hz switch if you are watching American content on an old TV that doesn't switch it automatically? I've never had a juddering issue here. Why do you experience the issue? I think we looked at the saving vs an Apple TV cost. Is it a problem giving them personal details? Can I not search Netflix in different ways using other devices? Also the other big question is about Netflix itself. Is it really the king of streaming? There seems to be some concensus on the internet that it may be playing second fiddle to Stan right now. Especially when you have to jump through so many regional hoops to gain access to the US library. |
Re: Streaming video - my experience
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11832062)
Also the other big question is about Netflix itself. Is it really the king of streaming? There seems to be some concensus on the internet that it may be playing second fiddle to Stan right now. Especially when you have to jump through so many regional hoops to gain access to the US library.
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Re: Streaming video - my experience
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11832127)
Stan has the same issue that other local services have long term - they can't spread the costs over a global subscriber base. Also I'm not sure if you can share a subscription in the same way Netflix are happy with you doing?
Right now the content is excellent. I suspect its the reason why global Netflix is not so good locally. Too many other local players buying up the good stuff. |
Re: Streaming video - my experience
I assume Netflix users know of these list of categories you can use to find films exactly like the ones you are looking for.
http://ogres-crypt.com/public/NetFli...ng-Genres.html British movies, and British TV, on the Oz Netflix, are probably useful ones: http://www.netflix.com/browse/genre/10757 http://www.netflix.com/browse/genre/52117 |
Re: Streaming video - my experience
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11832062)
My understanding is that you require the 50/60hz switch if you are watching American content on an old TV that doesn't switch it automatically? I've never had a juddering issue here. Why do you experience the issue?
Of course it all depends on how picky you are with your picture. If you don't mind/see excessive judder, or slight pauses (like a single frame) ever 1/2 second (when playing Google Play purchases in 50Hz when they have been encoded for 60Hz) then you probably won't mind the picture being off a bit.
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11832062)
I think we looked at the saving vs an Apple TV cost.
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11832062)
Is it a problem giving them personal details?
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11832062)
Also the other big question is about Netflix itself. Is it really the king of streaming? There seems to be some concensus on the internet that it may be playing second fiddle to Stan right now. Especially when you have to jump through so many regional hoops to gain access to the US library.
Content will be key though as that's what the game is all about. It seems like cable tv companies/broadcasters, or in this case an internet company that delivers content to people's screens via the internet, can bypass the traditional monopoly that has always existed in various countries. But at the end of the day it's all about the product, which is why the emphasis has now switching from simply being able to deliver content to consumers' homes to actually producing it. Netflix, Amazon, just a question of time before Apple (and maybe Google) join in too. HBO is also doing well in keeping tons of quality content away from Netflix. |
Re: Streaming video - my experience
Originally Posted by astera
(Post 11832235)
No, you require this setting with even the most modern of tv sets. The problem is with the encoding, some shows are encoded for 50Hz viewing (US) and others for 60Hz (UK/Europe). Even with Netflix or iTunes you will be using both as there is no automatic switching.
Of course it all depends on how picky you are with your picture. If you don't mind/see excessive judder, or slight pauses (like a single frame) ever 1/2 second (when playing Google Play purchases in 50Hz when they have been encoded for 60Hz) then you probably won't mind the picture being off a bit. Yeah, we looked at that too. Best - and cheapest - way to handle Netflix. Most people give them their full personal details and CC#. I prefer to just subscribe with 1 click of the remote without giving them anything. The thing is how long can they continue to compete with Netflix, who will be applying pressure for global rights with ever-increasing force? Content will be key though as that's what the game is all about. It seems like cable tv companies/broadcasters, or in this case an internet company that delivers content to people's screens via the internet, can bypass the traditional monopoly that has always existed in various countries. But at the end of the day it's all about the product, which is why the emphasis has now switching from simply being able to deliver content to consumers' homes to actually producing it. Netflix, Amazon, just a question of time before Apple (and maybe Google) join in too. HBO is also doing well in keeping tons of quality content away from Netflix. Garry, you are on the ball with US netflix ...... better options? |
Re: Streaming video - my experience
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11832371)
So you are saying that people have to go out and spend $250+ and join the Apple Ecosystem just to watch US netflix without a judder?
Garry, you are on the ball with US netflix ...... better options? Chromecast is more hassle, but there are lots of instructions online as to how to make your router do the job. Flixsearch.io allows you to search for where the content is playing around the world https://flixsearch.io/ The 50/60Hz thing is no longer an issue with Chromecast, and indeed most other boxes. https://support.google.com/chromecas.../6308937?hl=en Oh, and a more complete list of Netflix categories is available here http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...g-Genres2.html some don't work in Oz. |
Re: Streaming video - my experience
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11832375)
The 50/60Hz thing is no longer an issue with Chromecast, and indeed most other boxes. https://support.google.com/chromecas.../6308937?hl=en |
Re: Streaming video - my experience
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11832371)
So you are saying that people have to go out and spend $250+ and join the Apple Ecosystem just to watch US netflix without a judder?
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11832375)
The 50/60Hz thing is no longer an issue with Chromecast, and indeed most other boxes.
The CC also doesn't do the 5GHz band as it's wifi capabilities are quite outdated. Also, if you are on an unmetered broadband plan then fine, but if you aren't then the CC eats up data 24/7 by constantly downloading and displaying pictures. It never stops, even when the tv is off - as long as it's powered on it just keeps downloading.
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11832539)
Phew. I can rest in piece and keep steering clear of Apple. :). So can the rest of the clever world.
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Re: Streaming video - my experience
Originally Posted by astera
(Post 11833055)
The CC also doesn't do the 5GHz band as it's wifi capabilities are quite outdated.
Originally Posted by astera
(Post 11833055)
Also, if you are on an unmetered broadband plan then fine, but if you aren't then the CC eats up data 24/7 by constantly downloading and displaying pictures. It never stops, even when the tv is off - as long as it's powered on it just keeps downloading.
If you do have to have it turned on 24/7 for some reason, there are ways round the backdrop images (cached Google+ images). And, of course, you haven't mentioned the price benefit, ~$35 is hard to beat .... |
Re: Streaming video - my experience
Originally Posted by astera
(Post 11833055)
Go back. Re-read. I specifically mentioned the Apple TV 3, which costs around $100. In return you get the best way to watch Netflix and a 25% discount on your Netflix subscription.
Originally Posted by astera
(Post 11833055)
Google finally gave the CC the 50/60Hz switch. But setting up Getflix for the CC is a B-I-A-T-C-H so people have to mess with their router which is not the best solution. With ATV you just input the DNS number in one field in the settings and that's it - Getflix is all set up.
Originally Posted by astera
(Post 11833055)
The CC also doesn't do the 5GHz band as it's wifi capabilities are quite outdated.
Originally Posted by astera
(Post 11833055)
Also, if you are on an unmetered broadband plan then fine, but if you aren't then the CC eats up data 24/7 by constantly downloading and displaying pictures. It never stops, even when the tv is off - as long as it's powered on it just keeps downloading.
Originally Posted by astera
(Post 11833055)
By all means, be so "clever" and stay clear from anything that works well. ;) You seem to be allergic to... quality... because the last time around you even moaned about Singapore Airlines, the world's best carrier by a light year. :)
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Re: Streaming video - my experience
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11833115)
Err, the Chromecast 2 has the 5Ghz band.
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11833115)
Why would you leave it turned on? Like anything that doesn't need to be turned on constantly, you turn it off.
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11833115)
And, of course, you haven't mentioned the price benefit, ~$35 is hard to beat ....
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Re: Streaming video - my experience
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11833125)
So basically you are saying its not worth the money to get the latest Apple TV and its only worth getting version 3?
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11833125)
In that case wouldn't it just be better paying $30 and getting a Chromecast as it does 50 and 60 hz and the cost saving for Netflix on UHD is only $36 per annum?
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11833125)
But what if you have a Smart TV that has all the apps? Mine for example lets you enter a DNS. Most TV's released in the last 3 years do the same. Therefore you can do away with both Chromecast and Apple TV.
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11833125)
I think Garry successfully demostrated it does.
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11833125)
Now that's a point. I have mine running constantly. It probably is using my data though I never go over my limit. Perhaps I'll just set it to power off the USB or cache it to the my Google images. Problem solved not that there was one in the first place.
So yeah, there was a problem in the first place. Still is. It can be solved by cutting off the power (because it has no on/off switch), but it's just downright funny how idiots design these things...
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11833125)
Firstly I'm just trying to analysis whether an Apple TV is worth my money. So far I have yet to be sold on the cost vs value. Quality wise I'm sure its a well built unit. Most Apple products are but like most Apple products the question I have is whether its really appealing to the blinded. Bit like Singapore Airlines have previously had the tag "Worlds best airline" but really does that really apply today. And because they won't let you take off or land with the entertainment system on and because their staff can't think outside the box when it comes to service, they have certainly lost that position. Sorry if you work for SA and its hit a personal bone.
As for Singapore Airlines, they are the world's best airline. You cannot have headphones on for take-off or landing for safety reasons so what use is the entertainment system then? Big deal, just a lot of yahoo over nothing it seems. Staff is exemplary, no airline even comes close to their high standards. Stop creating problems out of the box and maybe there will be no issues, eh? Don't work for SQ, not my industry. But I do give credit where it's due. |
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