Dorothy

That was not your question. You stated that they don't lock kids up here for minor offences. You said nothing about Indoesian prison conditions.

And yes, I do have evidence. Do you have evidence that they don't? (see? I can use bold type too!)

jad n rich

The families 'celebrity agent' - oh dear - says the deal is off. Yeah probably till he gets back here and does a photo shoot too

Seemed to happen just after the indonesian courts said they were informed of the deal and words to the effect of money changing hands would not be looked at favourably.

janer

I agree. I went there for a week a couple of years ago and was not overly impressed. Bali is always in the news for bad reasons. Look at the woman that nearly died from drinking alcohol laced with some sort of poison. Dodgy!

Kooky.

I believe that was Lombok. Please boycott Lombok too.

sonlymewalter

Apologies as the bold was to focus on the evidence....as opposed to hearsay..
I said this......
Then you said this.....
Then I said this.....
Then you said this.....
Then I said this....
My point was kids in first world countries are not treated the same way as this kid in Bali in terms of the crime and punishment. You said they are but had not evidence to demonstrate this which at this point is just heresay so I did the bold to demonstrate we need a link or evidence, which you couldn't provide. It wasn't meant to be rude, so apologies for that.

Maybe you can provide evidence kids that kids in first world countries are treated the same in terms of crime and punishment as this kid in Bali

Dorothy

Well since I can't provide a link to my son's court proceedings or sentencing I must obviously be lying about children being sent to prison for minor offences. I could give you the names of other parents whose childen have also been sentenced to jail terms for minor offences such as possession of a few grams of marijuana, but I would have to respect their parents' (and their) privacy.

And I stand by my assertion that you did not say anything about kids in first world countries being treated to the same conditions they are in Indonesia. You said "That's cos kids in first world countries aren't thrown into the clink for this kind of minor offence" If you had said that they are not subjected to Indonesian style prison for minor offences I may have agreed with you.

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Kooky.

I didn't see any of the deleted posts but I suspect this thread has run its course.

sonlymewalter

Agree mate.

eddie007

I would hope that the thread keeps running so long as the issue is outstanding and that other issues dont sideline it or get the thread closed...

Its serves as a reminder that parents arent perfect and young teens are naive and are at risk of total stupidity....

I have friends who have teenagers and have changed their family holiday plans from Bali... because they are honest enough to admit that they can't 100% GUARANTEE their kids wouldnt be stupid in one way or another... Holidays for them is a time to relax and a time for a bit of freedom .... Not looking over thier shoulders and supergluing a 16 and 14 year old to their sides for the entire 10 days....


There appears to be a lot of "blame the parents" sentiment expressed relating to this kid.. I think they blame themselves enough without others condemning them...

eddie007

[QUOTE=Bix;9720083] OMG Dorothy and I are becoming perthford clones.... I think the vasectomy requires a reversal and Then a thorough cauterisation....

eddie007

And now Bix has become ME

WTF is going on??????

Bix

I didn't feel a thing.

Bix

If this turns out to be a mind meld phenomenom there are going to be some very interesting characters about.

cresta57

As long as I don't end up as commonwealth, that'd be a right pain in the arse

eddie007

You should be fine so long as you dont quote him..... Or he doesnt quote you...

I used to debug programs in the 80s... They'd give me a program to use and I'd eddie proof it....

Similar to idiot proofing... Very very similar to idiot proofing