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Old Apr 14th 2014 | 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by hungryhorace
South Africa is lawless, you will find no argument from me there. I think you under estimate the prosecution and judge in this trial though.
I know all about Gerrie Nel and his days with the Scorpions. I mentioned earlier that it was his expertise that was instrumental in getting Selebi in spite of all the SA government had thrown at him to try quash Selebi's activities. Long story short (with very minimal details) a family member owned and operated an armed security company that was hired to protect Selebi and some of his comrades. When they knew what was going on, they wanted out of the contract and the government would not let them off. It is because of this gentleman they were finally able to walk away - alive. This case is a walk in the park by comparison. I wait to see how the judge deals with this. Gerrie does have a problem with the contaminated crime site but I repeat, this case is light weight by comparison to what he had to deal with. Shall be interesting to read the transcripts after the judge's ruling to see if the law was enforced correctly.
 
Old Apr 14th 2014 | 9:15 am
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Originally Posted by Tegwyn
I know all about Gerrie Nel and his days with the Scorpions. I mentioned earlier that it was his expertise that was instrumental in getting Selebi in spite of all the SA government had thrown at him to try quash Selebi's activities. Long story short (with very minimal details) a family member owned and operated an armed security company that was hired to protect Selebi and some of his comrades. When they knew what was going on, they wanted out of the contract and the government would not let them off. It is because of this gentleman they were finally able to walk away - alive. This case is a walk in the park by comparison. I wait to see how the judge deals with this. Gerrie does have a problem with the contaminated crime site but I repeat, this case is light weight by comparison to what he had to deal with. Shall be interesting to read the transcripts after the judge's ruling to see if the law was enforced correctly.
That's why Gerrie is focusing more on Pistorius's story than on the crime scene - and he did an excellent job of that yesterday.

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Old Apr 14th 2014 | 9:24 am
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So Nel has worked it from accidental to negligent. This guy is good.
 
Old Apr 14th 2014 | 9:40 am
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Nel has helped Pistorius to ensnare himself with his own lies. There were moments yesterday where Pistorius clearly couldn't remember what story he'd spun.
 
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Originally Posted by paulry
Nel has helped Pistorius to ensnare himself with his own lies. There were moments yesterday where Pistorius clearly couldn't remember what story he'd spun.
I got the feeling Pistorious was trying to second guess everything Nel was throwing at him and ended up getting himself confused. The detail of the incidents didnt change that much, but enough for Nel to accuse him of lying. Half the time I couldn't understand Nels questions. They weren't phrased very well, but then again that's his job .... Confuse the accused.

Riveting TV this.
 
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Riveting TV this.
It beats the ABC hands down (or straight in front of you).
 
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Originally Posted by hungryhorace
Firstly, agree with your comment re SA police. My experience of Saffer cops is they are incredibly corrupt and most should be in prison (most make the MPS look competent and not racist!).

Second, I still stand by my comment that Oscar's 'celebrity' will have no bearing on the Judge's decision in this case. He's a professional, not a lay person who is easily influenced by such an issue.
I thought he was a she: Judge Thokozile Masipa.
 
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Originally Posted by hungryhorace
Second, I still stand by my comment that Oscar's 'celebrity' will have no bearing on the Judge's decision in this case. He's a professional, not a lay person who is easily influenced by such an issue.
And he's a she!
 
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I thought he was a she: Judge Thokozile Masipa.
I can't tell by the name, but the judge looks very much like a lady.
 
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Did anyone read that book where the murderer shoved his wife off a fire watch forest platform then acted so cut up, vomiting and crying that he got away with it

I'm having flashbacks to that book watching Pistorius,
do you think he reads the same books
 
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I can't tell by the name, but the judge looks very much like a lady.
Dude looks like a lady.
 
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Did anyone read that book where the murderer shoved his wife off a fire watch forest platform then acted so cut up, vomiting and crying that he got away with it

I'm having flashbacks to that book watching Pistorius,
do you think he reads the same books
No I didn't. Any detail, or just your opinion?
 
Old Apr 14th 2014 | 4:06 pm
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You can only wail and produce drama for so long before it loses it's effect. Wonder how new squeeze feels watching his dramatically "broken" heart.
 
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Originally Posted by paulry
That's why Gerrie is focusing more on Pistorius's story than on the crime scene - and he did an excellent job of that yesterday.

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I don't knnoooow if he's innocent or not! he sounds sorry but before you shot bullets surely you would think about where your partner was and get them out of the way before you shot bullets!! guess no-one knows the story apart from him, same as that balcony man!!!
 


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