Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 

Whilst I was out and about in my car today I listened to his trial on the radio.
I have to say he sounded very convincing when reenacting the moment he shot his girlfriend.

So after today I've come to the conclusion he's either innocent or a damn good actor.



Has anyone else been following it? What are your thoughts?

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My opinion - Guilty as, but genuinely remorseful for what he's done. Angry little ant that did something in a fit of rage and now has to live with the consequences.

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My opinion - absolutely guilty. Sick of his sniveling/crying 'poor me' act in court too!:sneaky:

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Guilty as fook,sniffly little shit.

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Guilty as hell but will get away with it as it's Africa.

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Guilty as. I also think he will probably get away with it though as he is a popular sports figure.

The story is absurd, who doesn't glance at the person who should be sleeping beside them if they hear a strange noise in the house. If he sounds convincing then he is indeed a good actor.

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I agree with Bermudashorts

if you hear a noise in the house you always check where the person who is sleeping with you is or call them, your first thought is your partner only your second thought is burglars when you have accounted for your partners whereabouts and that it is not them making the noise.


he is guilty!!

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Innocent? Of shooting his girlfriend 4 times while she cowered screaming behind the door? Put down the crack pipe there Molly. It's started to affect your judgement.

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If it was up to the British Expat jury the McCann's would be doing time for killing their own daughter so I have no doubt that the British Expat jury will find Pistorius totally 100% innocent.

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As Dorothy said "Of shooting his girlfriend 4 times while she cowered screaming behind the door?"

Out of curiosity, was there a motive presented to the court? Seems an extreme thing to do without a decent motive.

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Guilty

He's been coached by the best liars money can buy. The antics with the vomiting/etc. are all designed to stick a picture in a jury's mind of remorseful, innocent, man. Problem for him is, there is no jury - it's the judge only, who's seen this type of thing before.

Therefore, unless his family have managed to nobble the judge, I think he's going to be found guilty on the evidence (even if he didn't know it was his GF, it's still going to be manslaughter).

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He's probably guilty - but this is Africa, where rhythm and rhym are not always what they should be

He's got a smart lawyer, the best in the business. Without him, he's gone. With him he's got a chance

He's going to prison no matter what. It might not be for 1st degree but for a lesser offence

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Agreed Garry. The evidence, and his own admission, supports a manslaughter conviction at the very least.


S

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Either way he's guilty, he shot her, he admits it. Its just a matter if its intentional on unintentional.

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Guilty, without a doubt! He behaved like a jealous toddler with a gun, hope he gets everything he deserves. :fingerscrossed:

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Was that the motive? Jealousy?

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some people never seem to need a reason for the things they do

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Just for kicks then?

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If they find him Guilty I will totally lose my current belief and faith in the South African justice system... Surely it will stay true to form like the US system in the OJ case.

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Possibly. He seemed to like aiming firearms at people. And shooting randomly when pissed off.

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Anger management issues + obsession with guns.

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I doubt that - red mist maybe

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The problem with OJ was that while pretty much everyone believed he was guilty the DA put on such a crap case filled with so many holes that the jury really didn't have a whole lot of option than to acquit him. OJ had a great defence team and a judge who was very interested in the fame that presiding over the trial brought. Those two factors along with an incompetent prosecution gave the jury nothing to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did it.

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Yehp, well it didn't earn its Monika as the "land of the free" for nothing and I reckon SA can match it :)

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Hey Zulu, what happens to white dudes in South African prisons? I would have thought they'd be raped to death within the first few days. Or do they have to form Aryan Brotherhood style gangs for protection?

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He will be slapped in with the masses, where he should belong. They may try to isolate him for a while as he did bring some positive media coverage and money to the country, but once the novelty wears off, he will enjoy the comforts like the rest of them. He had better dry up those eyeballs or he is in for a very interesting time.

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Maybe he can cower screaming in terror behind a door for a while before meeting whatever fate the prison population decides is his.

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Good question. What about white dudes on stumps?

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Ok just playing devils advocate here. There is pretty much no dispute he shot her. The question is, is it manslaughter or murder. Did he intend to shoot dead his girlfriend or shoot an intruder. That's why I'm looking for a motive to shoot dead his girlfriend. I can't see one yet.

BTW. I have no opinion on murder or manslaughter. Haven't seen enough of the case to be a judge.

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I don't think he thought it was a burglar - I also don't think he was thinking at all. But when he shot the gun I think he knew it was his girlfriend in the bathroom, and whether or not he intended to kill her he intended to harm her, and if he had of been thinking he would have realised that it was a likely outcome so I reckon murder

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Nope. He's going to get majorly ass-raped

There are not enough white guys in prison there to form a gang. Jails are seriously 3rd world and AIDs is rampant

It's generally a good idea to avoid prison in non-1st world countries although his money might be able to buy him some protection

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easy white meat

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No the McCanns are only guilty of extreme child negligence and stupidity

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I've got ask ...... motive? :p

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There's quite a few 1st world countries I think I'd rather avoid imprisonment in. The US being one...


S

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Asked and answered previously

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True. I've seen that Louis Theroux programme.......

Norway is the place to commit crime

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Where? Jealousy?

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Had it been one shot, I may be convinced that he thought her an intruder until he heard her scream. Four shots tells me he knew what he was doing and at who.

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Not so much jealousy but control. Some men will go to extremes to control a woman they feel is not conforming to their rules or pulling away from the relationship . There was coverage that she had indicated she was afraid of him and his bad temper. Pity she did not heed those warning signs back then.