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The trial was doomed from the start ..... for him anyway.

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Guilty as hell!! all the reasons have been covered, but I do think he's a very good actor, saying all the right words at the right time. Good coaching there..

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Hey leave me out of this:ohmy:

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I haven't been following it much (it's not really my thing) but I would have to say guilty.

A beautiful young girl needlessly murdered. So sad. :(

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Perhaps there is no need for a motive when one is a nasty, arrogant little bastard.

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Jeez. The daggers are out for Oscar. Snowflakes chance in hell if the BE'ers were in the jury.

Personally I'd like to think it was manslaughter. Accidents happen and all that. Innocent before proven guilty and so forth.

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True, we don't know all the facts.

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There is no jury. He's being tried by judge alone, so the performances are for the cameras and press.

The prosecution does not need to prove motive. They only have to prove that he knew it was her behind that door and that he shot with the intention of doing harm. For all we know maybe he needed a slash and she was taking too long in the bathroom. It doesn't matter why, just that he didn't do it accidentally.

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He's guilty alright. Why would he NOT check the safety of his gf BEFORE shooting like a maniac?

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I'll bet he checked the safety was off his weapon;)

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:lol::thumbup:

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Yes I know there's no jury I was just .. ....... Oh never mind

OK never lived in SA. I hear burglury is common and guns are everywhere. Anyway Zulu ..... Care to comment how the average South African might juggle the 2?

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Yeah thought about that and I have to truly say, if I thought someone was busting in my front door at 4 in the morning I'd automatically assume Mrs Beoz was in bed. I don't think the checking of safety really comes into it.

Ok another story. MAny years ago I was sharing a flat in London with a friend who was female. One night I heard someone walking around the house. I just assumed it was my flatmate, thought nothing of it until the morning when we discovered we'd been burgled during the night. Had I have thought clearly I would have remembered that I had never heard my flatmate ever walking around the flat during the night in the past. She wasn't a nightly p8sser. Assumption hey .... How could I be so wrong at 4 in the morning.

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On the night he killed his girlfriend he is claiming that he had heard noises and told his girlfriend to ring the police or get help ( I can't remember exactly what he said now) anyway this is what he is claiming. He is also claiming that he heard noises in the bathroom and that he thought it couldn't possibly be his girlfriend as she was downstairs. He said he shouted but there was no answer, he said he was scared and felt vulnerable as he didn't have his legs on and before he knew it he had taken shots at the bathroom door.


His dead girlfriends phone was used as evidence in court yesterday. A couple of text messages he had sent her are being perceived as threatening, and he had to explain the content to the judge.
He spoke about being at a party, a social gathering of some kind when he saw his girlfriend talking to another man. He walked over hoping she would introduce him but she didn't, he then sort of pushed himself forwards in between them hoping this would lead to an introduction. Again it didn't, they later had an argument and he lost his temper with her. There have been a few examples of this kind of jealous behaviour, which doesn't exactly do him any favours.

However what does go in his favour is that he has an answer/ logical explanation for everything that's thrown at him. Like Amazula and Garry said earlier, he's got the best lawyers money can buy, and it shows.


At the end of the day money talks doesn't it, money and status, had it been someone who was poor I'm sure the key would have been thrown away long before now.

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There seems to be very little doubt he murdered his girlfriend in a fit of rage, he had well documented anger issues and also gun related issues. She locked herself in the bathroom and he killed her in cold blood.

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For ONCE,yer right;)

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:rofl:


How come you get away with being cheeky I don't! Lol

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:thumbup:

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Simples - cos he's an expert, innit. :D

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That just about sums it up for me too.

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The bit I've never understood about his story - if you had a gun in your hand, and there was what you thought was a robber locked in the toilet - why would you shoot through the door? There's no immediate threat, and you couldn't aim for sh*t even if you were trying to kill them. Keep the bullets in case you need them and call the cops.

Alternatively, if you are in a murderous rage at your girlfriend and she is locked in the loo, at what stage would "I know, I'll shoot at her, nothing bad will come of that" enter your head?

By definition he can't of been in his right mind either way - so why didn't they go for a 'roid rage defence? He should be going down for manslaughter anyway - and it's more believable than his current story.

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Sue is my mistress;)

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Too much information Bernie, too much information! :p

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Maybe he wanted to frighten her.
I think he was in his right mind - he's not mentally ill.
I think he was in a rage - different thing altogether.

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That was soooooo last week.

































She's mines now :eek::tape::scarper:

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Since watching the court scenes on TV last night, I think what has happened is that she has told him she's leaving him and being the typical, selfish cruel b@$tard he is. He's thought if I can't have you then no one is! Bang! Bang!

The End.



I agree he would have been better off going for the 'not in my right mind' path.

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Worry not,tis only between me n you:thumbup:

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This deserves a descriptive and celebratory tune....

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Accidents happen absolutely, but four shots takes it a bit further.

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Spoken like a british soldier in Ireland :sneaky:

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Hello, I grew up there too. burglary is unfortunately very common and preferably when the folks are at home so they can terrorise and kill. That factor I understand and what everyone is forgetting is the area Oscar lived in was a secured neighbourhood. Even though there is still some risk of someone breaking in, I know his behaviour was extreme. Four bullets in a small toilet area is extreme. First thing you do when you hear a potential break in is call security in your neighbourhood and they in turn alert an armed response team. When the call came in from security he blew them off and started calling other folk. He had enough clarity to know who he needed to talk to.

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I read* about the case a few weeks ago, while it didn't state that was the motive( hes not been goind giilty yet) he was however very jealous, always accusing her of flirting with men at party's ect and she had spoken to her best friend about how worried she was about his behaviour.

*It was a doco on the crime channel, it was very interesting. Interviewed her friends and parents put together all the events leading up to it for months before and described the relationship they'd had.

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... Guilty, but he'll walk.

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With a spring in his step:D

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If that happens, then I hope for justice, the new and improved South African style.

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I'm right loads of times, it's just that you dont always agree. :)

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Yer right,again:D

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Some interesting news and analyses here.

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Yep ... Sounds a nice love affair. ... Got anything concrete? ...... I'm finding it hard to make a decision on shades of grey and the women's rights movement.

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That email exchange (or whatever it was) revealed a lot about the nature of their relationship. Much more will be revealed over the next few days.