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Old Feb 19th 2013 | 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by renth
What about the bloodied cricket bat, how does that fit in? It's a shame OJ Simpson's lawyer Johnny Cochrane is dead, Pistorious could have hire him and got off.
This is probably one of the damning points, naturally, people can argue what a person would do with a gun in their room, and in what order, to the cows come home.
 
Old Feb 19th 2013 | 4:56 pm
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Originally Posted by carolinephillips
Not correct- he grabbed his gun whilst on his stumps according to his statement, and fired through the door. It was only when he realised that Reeva was not in bed after he had backed out of the bathroom that he tried to get into the toilet, which was locked, so he went for his prosthetics to try to kick the door down.
Like, yeah right. Who in their right mind wouldn't check to make sure the girlfriend WASN'T in the bathroom first.
 
Old Feb 19th 2013 | 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by renth
What about the bloodied cricket bat, how does that fit in? It's a shame OJ Simpson's lawyer Johnny Cochrane is dead, Pistorious could have hire him and got off.
I thought OJ's lawyer was Robert Kardashian.
 
Old Feb 19th 2013 | 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by scottishcelts
Like, yeah right. Who in their right mind wouldn't check to make sure the girlfriend WASN'T in the bathroom first.
Their right mind? A jumpy, aggressive f**cked up, sportsman with a disability, and reportedly an attitude and a personality disorder, living in SA, in a crime culture, who is still only 26? Plausible. I've met blokes in their 20s who were trained to be aggressive, were aggressive and did do things with tunnel vision. Of course these traits can make him as guilty as much as innocent.

Thing is, we still haven't heard the full story and noone will until the Cops get it all - and even then we won't get every detail.

Look, I agree it's not looking good for him though!
 
Old Feb 19th 2013 | 5:07 pm
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Originally Posted by scottishcelts
Like, yeah right. Who in their right mind wouldn't check to make sure the girlfriend WASN'T in the bathroom first.
The reporter definitely said this morning that he put his prosthetics on, but I see from his statement he says he put them on after the shooting.

However:

On my way to the bathroom I screamed words to the effect for him/them to get out of my house and for Reeva to phone the police. It was pitch dark in the bedroom and I thought Reeva was in bed.
Was the toilet soundproofed? I know if Himself was screaming in the middle of the night to get out of the house I'd be screaming back at him...

And no matter how dark a room is, you can still tell if someone is in there with you, the least you'd do if you thought there was a potentially dangerous intruder would be to wake your loved one up for them to get away from the danger area/ring the police/etc.
 
Old Feb 19th 2013 | 5:14 pm
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Was the toilet soundproofed? I know if Himself was screaming in the middle of the night to get out of the house I'd be screaming back at him...

And no matter how dark a room is, you can still tell if someone is in there with you, the least you'd do if you thought there was a potentially dangerous intruder would be to wake your loved one up for them to get away from the danger area/ring the police/etc.
Who the hell gets up at night, in the 'pitch black' goes to the toilet, locks the door, and doesn't turn on the light?

Hell, who goes and gets a gun (from the bed mind you) and goes to meet a potential intruder without turning on the lights?
 
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Who the hell gets up at night, in the 'pitch black' goes to the toilet, locks the door, and doesn't turn on the light?
Me.

Originally Posted by GarryP
Hell, who goes and gets a gun (from the bed mind you) and goes to meet a potential intruder without turning on the lights?
Who the hell confronts an intruder, with either lights on or off, without first dialling the emergency services?
 
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Their right mind? A jumpy, aggressive f**cked up, sportsman with a disability, and reportedly an attitude and a personality disorder, living in SA, in a crime culture, who is still only 26? Plausible. I've met blokes in their 20s who were trained to be aggressive, were aggressive and did do things with tunnel vision. Of course these traits can make him as guilty as much as innocent.

Thing is, we still haven't heard the full story and noone will until the Cops get it all - and even then we won't get every detail.

Look, I agree it's not looking good for him though!
This is very true, and just what I was discussing with the other half.
 
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Originally Posted by GarryP
Who the hell gets up at night, in the 'pitch black' goes to the toilet, locks the door, and doesn't turn on the light?

Hell, who goes and gets a gun (from the bed mind you) and goes to meet a potential intruder without turning on the lights?
Originally Posted by Geordie George
Me.

Who the hell confronts an intruder, with either lights on or off, without first dialling the emergency services?
Someone who is confident, knows their house and wants to retain the element of surprise, and doesn't want an intruder to know they are up and out of bed, by making more noise on the phone? I'm not sure if my phone in our room even works...I can tell you now, I would not turn on a light - I would present a target or scare the intruder into opening fire themselves. Having said that the intruder would have better night vision...

Most of us in the UK have never fired, or used a gun, or been in the situation where we might use it.
 
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Part of his defence surely would be that he (allegedly) surprised another intruder, who was armed, sometime in the recent past who got away......
not to get off, but to diminish the responsibility or liability.
 
Old Feb 19th 2013 | 7:38 pm
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South African police immediately suspected Oscar Pistorius when a witness came forward to say she'd seen a sawn-off man with a shotgun!
 
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Oops.

Shots were down through the toilet down, from normal height, which means he had his legs on. To get to the bathroom you have to go past the bed. And two bottles of testosterone/needles were found.
 
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Originally Posted by GarryP
Oops.

Shots were down through the toilet down, from normal height, which means he had his legs on. To get to the bathroom you have to go past the bed. And two bottles of testosterone/needles were found.
Define normal hight? Fired from the hip or fired from a pro shooters stance. Fired sitting on the bed? Standing on stumps on the bed?
Way to many unknown variables.
 
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Originally Posted by cresta57
Define normal hight? Fired from the hip or fired from a pro shooters stance. Fired sitting on the bed? Standing on stumps on the bed?
Way to many unknown variables.
This is from the police investigator - eg the track of the bullets through the door and into the toilet.
 
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It's quite refreshing that this case in South Africa is not 'race'-related.
 


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