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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)

- The Barbie (https://britishexpats.com/forum/barbie-92/)

- - Nuclear Meltdown? (https://britishexpats.com/forum/barbie-92/nuclear-meltdown-708987/)

Turban Explorer

Mar 17th 2011 4:07 pm

Re: Nuclear Meltdown?

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Originally Posted by What_a_life (Post 9247529)

I dont really understand what tradewinds are. How is it that WMO are saying they expect very low radiation particles to reach Canada,and Eastern U.S by today, and to eventually spread round the entire northern hemisphere(as I said in very low doses, not harmful to health), but said nothing about Oz. US doesnt look much further than OZ.!!
Read somewhere the tradewinds make it hard to cross over from north to south, but I dont understand it. Can anyone enlighten me please.

tradewinds are the prevailing winds in a particular area. The east coast of Australia has a very pronounced south easterly wind which dies off very briefly during the wet allowing sailors to head south....

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/glossa...de_winds.shtml

JustBecause

Mar 17th 2011 4:42 pm

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Health & safety conditions at Chernobyl dramatically increased after the event as they had the world's media scrutinising them & they entered into partnerships with mainly US-based companies to manage the mess. Having said that they do still allow smoking on site even within the control rooms (which are still operational as some fuel still there, not just the f**ked one) which is a massive no-no in Western industrial safety culture, however I suspect they would have no Ukranian workforce if they banned smoking.

Regarding the workers at the plant in Japan - do we think they really are getting huge exposures? Clearly it is a possibility, but they raised the emergency dose limit from 100mSv to 250mSv (which is not enough dose to give rise to health effects). Wouldn't they have raised it higher or not bothered to release any info about it if they weren't at least attempting to manage exposure?

This article about the media slant was published in an Australian populist science mag (which is an even more dumbed down version of New Scientist):

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/featur...media-meltdown

One interesting snippet given was that the earthquake's destructive energy was 39 000 times that of the bomb detonated at Hiroshima.

And lastly a map showing environmental dose rate info for the whole of Japan (unit used is the Gray which in the context of looking at relative levels can be considered equivalent to the Sievert):

http://www.bousai.ne.jp/eng/

iamthecreaturefromuranus

Mar 17th 2011 4:51 pm

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Originally Posted by JustBecause (Post 9247609)

Might be now, but I remember smoking in IT datacenters at one time... and that wasn't in the Ukraine. :)

Amazulu

Mar 17th 2011 4:57 pm

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I'm sick of all the shite being written in the mainstream (and non-mainstream) media that I am getting my updates from this website:

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/default.aspx

This site might not have all of the issues covered but it is better than most of the other stuff that is out there.

JustBecause

Mar 17th 2011 5:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9247628)

I was using that & the IAEA site. The info is a bit delayed but that's cos they want to make sure they are reporting what facts they can rather than a lot of conjecture.

JustBecause

Mar 17th 2011 5:48 pm

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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9247625)

Might be now, but I remember smoking in IT datacenters at one time... and that wasn't in the Ukraine. :)

Yes, but this is now in Ukraine in the units! Unthinkable in any major industrial site now by Western standards, unless they are shoved out in some bus shelter right on the perimeter of the site. No comfy smoking rooms any more for the smokers to escape to!

moneypenny20

Mar 17th 2011 5:49 pm

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Originally Posted by JustBecause (Post 9247679)

I was using that & the IAEA site. The info is a bit delayed but that's cos they want to make sure they are reporting what facts they can rather than a lot of conjecture.

Oh but conjecture sells newspapers and ups rubbish news channel's viewing figures. You are a spoilsport. :D

Rambi

Mar 17th 2011 6:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 9247510)

The problem with pumped storage is that you still require a baseload supply to do the pumping during the off peak hours. These are usually during the night, so you would have no sun to pump by solar, and no guarantee of any wind.

So that leaves either biofuels, coal or nuclear to provide that energy.

S

I knew that already but thanks for reminding me. :thumbup:

Rambi

Mar 17th 2011 7:14 pm

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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9247625)

Might be now, but I remember smoking in IT datacenters at one time... and that wasn't in the Ukraine. :)

I remember going to the pub for a couple at lunchtime. :thumbup: Happy days. Everything worked so much better then and we didn't have to go to meetings.

Rambi

Mar 17th 2011 7:17 pm

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So how many peeps here in Aus would be happy to have a Nuke Power Station built in their your town? Let's assume for the sake of the question that your house would be less than 10k from the reactor.

DeadVim

Mar 17th 2011 7:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Rambi (Post 9247812)

So how many peeps here in Aus would be happy to have a Nuke Power Station built in their your town? Let's assume for the sake of the question that your house would be less than 10k from the reactor.

I'd rather live next to Phil Collins.

Talking of recurring personal hate figures, can we not send Thatcher out to the reactor, real close? Just as an ambassador you understand.

GarryP

Mar 17th 2011 7:23 pm

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Originally Posted by Rambi (Post 9247812)

So how many peeps here in Aus would be happy to have a Nuke Power Station built in their your town? Let's assume for the sake of the question that your house would be less than 10k from the reactor.

It's Australia, you could place it 1000k from the nearest town without really trying.

I'd be happier with that than a brown coal burning power station.

What_a_life

Mar 17th 2011 7:47 pm

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See not everyone is so upset about whats happening in Tokyo. Just seen some guy from the socceroos,who I guess must have been in Tokyo. Says Quantas charged him 8k for 2 seats back home. IF thats true that sucks,and Quantas should be ashamed

moneypenny20

Mar 17th 2011 7:49 pm

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Originally Posted by What_a_life (Post 9247849)

QANTAS did the same for people trying to get out of Cairns before Yasi. At least they stick to their policies :rolleyes:

Cheetah7

Mar 17th 2011 7:50 pm

Re: Nuclear Meltdown?

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Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9247817)

I'd rather live next to Phil Collins.

Talking of recurring personal hate figures, can we not send Thatcher out to the reactor, real close? Just as an ambassador you understand.

I would rather live next Leo Sayer AND Celine Dion.

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