Originally Posted by Bix

Are homo sapiens the only creatures that have homos and lesbians or is it evolutionary from a fish or something?

Originally Posted by Bix

Are homo sapiens the only creatures that have homos and lesbians or is it evolutionary from a fish or something?

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter

The church has a lot to answer for no wonder people no longer engage with its outdated thousands of years old teachings

Originally Posted by Swerv-o

Yes, Gillard has only pushed for a conscience vote knowing full well that it will fail because the Liberals and the Labour Left won't support it. This isn't official Labour party policy - even JG herself doesn't support it, so it will ultimately end up being a complete waste of time and money, and will be very unlikely to develop any basis in law. This is a double win for JG though - She declares it a conscience vote, and when it's defeated she can just shrug it off as not being party policy.

The aspect of a conscience vote that irritates me is exactly as Slap describes - The vote should pass to the regards of the constituents, not the conscience of the individual MP. In reality, your wishes come third in line after the MP's respective party, and then their views on a conscience vote. And yet, strangely they are meant to be there representing us.

If Tony Abbot really wants to get one over on JG, then he should really instruct the liberal party to vote for it, while highlighting how it is JG that is against it. He would gain massive support, and can placate his right wing followers that this was all Labour's idea. But given the far right leaning of the LNP supporter base, I can't see that happening. This is nothing but playing politics to maintain the status quo.


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Originally Posted by sonlymewalter

is this a trick question

worms are male and female does that count

Originally Posted by keel

Actually I've spoken to a few people who have given up on the Church of England because it has become more homo friendly. I'm not a church goer myself but these people felt they were being pushed of the church because their beliefs were becoming incompatible with those running the church.
I think this issue should not be left to the pollies. Because the views of both sides are too far apart it should go to a referendum to decide. All the polls suggest my views are in the minority so the result would seem to be a foregone conclusion.
However I somehow believe the polls are not telling the truth.

But what do I know I'm 90 years old and smell of wee.

Keel

Originally Posted by Bix

That sounds more like a push me pull me relationship

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus

From who?

Originally Posted by Bix

Loggers?

Originally Posted by cresta57

Barsteward I'm whistling that tune now

Originally Posted by cresta57

Barsteward I'm whistling that tune now

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus

From who?

Originally Posted by Bix

Are homo sapiens the only creatures that have homos and lesbians or is it evolutionary from a fish or something?

Originally Posted by spartacus

I'm in a same-sex marriage. We have the same old sex, first Saturday of every month. I hadn't realised I was committing a criminal offence..

Originally Posted by Turban Explorer

I'd rather be a hip, liberated, stylish gun slinging metrosexual. If someone coins a term less stuffy and old hat than marriage then I'll be envious. Calling it something else just reiterates outdated homophobia and prejudice. So, on that basis there's a good chance the Aussies will label it 'queer union' or 'bender partnerships'