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Re: Indonesian Executions
I wonder if the government will be equally vocal in this case here:
Sydney man faces execution in China More drug trafficking, this time in China. The case has been expedited for some reason. S |
Re: Indonesian Executions
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 11632957)
I wonder if the government will be equally vocal in this case here:
Sydney man faces execution in China More drug trafficking, this time in China. The case has been expedited for some reason. S Interestingly China has executed a dozen foreigners in the past 15 years. Indonesia has already executed a dozen foreigners this year. |
Re: Indonesian Executions
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11632967)
Sounds like he's only allowed visits from New Zealand embassy staff as he travelled there on his NZ passport.
Interestingly China has executed a dozen foreigners in the past 15 years. Indonesia has already executed a dozen foreigners this year. S |
Re: Indonesian Executions
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 11632969)
Yup, Indonesia is heading the leagues in that respect. It does look like this guy's goose is cooked though.
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There are others on the chopping block too
Backgrounder: The other Australians on death row | SBS News Be interesting to see how these pan out. |
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It shouldn't really come as a surprise that the Indonesian government is corrupt, when travelling to the area we're constantly warned about just that, same as when you're on a plane there's a lovely smiling air stewardess on the safety video saying 'drug trafficking is a crime and we'll ****ing shoot you if you do it' (the last bit wasn't strictly true but they make it abundantly clear that they consider drug traffickers the lowest of the low).
In short, 2 people were caught doing something they knew would get them shot, by a country whose government was always going to time the execution for maximum effect/ benefit to them. This is a bit of a non-story when you think of it, I'm off to donate to the Nepalese relief fund, a far more worthwhile use of my time. Yours Truly Sanctimonious Steve ;) |
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Just disgusted and outraged by this. The 2 chaps had reformed; isn't prison meant to reform and rehab people.
I am against Capital Punishment for any crime. Not giving the death penalty does not mean the prisoners are set free. They executed that mentally challenged Brazilian who did not even know until the last moments he was going to be executed because he could not understand the whole concept of execution. This just comes across as a big ego boost to Widodo, so that he can point to his people and say look I stood up against the pressure from the West. Australian police ****ed big time here. They never should have told the Indonesians , knowing that drug smuggling carried the death penalty. Only reason the Aussie police even knew about the drug smuggling is because the dad of one of the other smugglers informed them, thinking they would warn the Aussie smugglers directly and that would discourage them from carrying through with the plan. |
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Sigh. No winners here. Not even the misguided ones (I'm obviously referring to certain politicians who must be feeling pretty chuffed about themselves on how well they stood up to Western political pressure). A case like this can only invite polarizing opinions. The take home message? Don't do drugs, kids. Better still, don't try to traffic the bally stuff!
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Originally Posted by xizzles
(Post 11633375)
Sigh. No winners here. Not even the misguided ones (I'm obviously referring to certain politicians who must be feeling pretty chuffed about themselves on how well they stood up to Western political pressure). A case like this can only invite polarizing opinions. The take home message? Don't do drugs, kids. Better still, don't try to traffic the bally stuff!
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Indonesia releases Bali Terrorist bombing planner/bombs builder.
20 people died , including 4 Australians. ONE of the terrorists behind the 2005 Bali bombings has been released on parole after serving just half his original prison sentence. Muhammad Cholili, 36, helped assemble more than 20 backpack and motorcycle bombs — some of which were used in the October, 2005 attacks in Bali that killed 20 people, including four Australians. More than 120 others were injured in the evening blasts that struck the popular tourist areas of Kuta and Jimbaran Beach. His 18 year prison sentence was halved to 9 years and he was just released on parole. Why is Australia giving $600 million annually to Indonesia. |
Re: Indonesian Executions
Originally Posted by Boomhauer
(Post 11633810)
Indonesia releases Bali Terrorist bombing planner/bombs builder.
20 people died , including 4 Australians. No Cookies | dailytelegraph.com.au His 18 year prison sentence was halved to 9 years and he was just released on parole. Why is Australia giving $600 million annually to Indonesia. That is a very good question - particularly as they have a pretty extensive military budget and expenditure plan at the moment. S |
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The sooner the Aussie government gets used to the fact that Indonesia does not like being bullied by foreign powers on sovereign issues (and is not averse to showing it, quite evidently) the better. This bloke in China won't get anywhere near the level of 'help' because China is simply too big and powerful to bully.
A diplomatic incident this most certainly isn't, but the Aussies are sure making it into one. Bullyshit ;) |
Re: Indonesian Executions
Originally Posted by stevenglish1
(Post 11633820)
The sooner the Aussie government gets used to the fact that Indonesia does not like being bullied by foreign powers on sovereign issues (and is not averse to showing it, quite evidently) the better. This bloke in China won't get anywhere near the level of 'help' because China is simply too big and powerful to bully.
A diplomatic incident this most certainly isn't, but the Aussies are sure making it into one. Bullyshit ;) The Brazilian who was executed Indonesia for drug smuggling was mentally handicapped, such that he did not even comprehend the concept of execution until the very last minutes. If it weren't for the Australian police tipping off the Indonesian , they wouldn't even have known about the Bali 9. So why shouldn't Australia advocate on their behalf. |
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Originally Posted by Boomhauer
(Post 11633832)
The Indonesians advocated on behalf of an Indonesian woman on death row in Saudi but the Saudis beheaded her early this month.
The Brazilian who was executed Indonesia for drug smuggling was mentally handicapped, such that he did not even comprehend the concept of execution until the very last minutes. If it weren't for the Australian police tipping off the Indonesian , they wouldn't even have known about the Bali 9. So why shouldn't Australia advocate on their behalf. |
Re: Indonesian Executions
Originally Posted by Boomhauer
(Post 11633832)
The Indonesians advocated on behalf of an Indonesian woman on death row in Saudi but the Saudis beheaded her early this month.
The Brazilian who was executed Indonesia for drug smuggling was mentally handicapped, such that he did not even comprehend the concept of execution until the very last minutes. If it weren't for the Australian police tipping off the Indonesian , they wouldn't even have known about the Bali 9. So why shouldn't Australia advocate on their behalf. |
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