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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   The Barbie (https://britishexpats.com/forum/barbie-92/)
-   -   Global warming (https://britishexpats.com/forum/barbie-92/global-warming-642608/)

slapphead_otool Mar 5th 2010 7:27 pm
Re: Global warming
 
I must admit, the AGW mantra is used and twisted to account for almost everything . I’m surprised the JFK assassination wasn’t attributed to some effect of Global Warming.

However, the reason for posting the link was because the public, who are rapidly losing any confidence in IPCC and the AGW lobby, are going to look in askance when they are told about AGW and yet see 50 ships trapping in unseasonal ice.

Wol Mar 5th 2010 8:57 pm
Re: Global warming
 
Originally Posted by NedKelly (Post 8398550)
Is one of the effects harder winters in the USA & Texas? If it is it looks like Al Gore was right. Maybe Lord_Faraguhar can enlighten us. I am sure he will be here soon.
Who knows?

One - or even a series - of colder, or warmer, seasons tells us nothing about climate change per se. Climate is on a much longer timescale. But when "deniers" point fingers at effects that are consistent with warming *climatologically* we should be aware of the pros and cons of the arguments, not just assume their assessments are correct.

Deancm Mar 6th 2010 11:34 am
Re: Global warming
 
Originally Posted by Wol (Post 8398536)
Oh yes, the lawyers. Much better than the scientists.
That's why there is such a thing as expert witnesses ie. climate scientists. Ironically enough the weather channel in the US is using the courts as well because the IPCC, NASA etc are corrupting the AGW science.

Deancm Mar 6th 2010 11:43 am
Re: Global warming
 
Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 8398540)
Apart from being wrong when you quote Wol's comment, why is it that it has to be Gore's lies rather than errors or interpretations?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimmock...ion_and_Skills
Where was I wrong when I quoted Wol's comment? BE did it for me so the quote was exactly what Wol wrote.

The part about stopping was a direct reference to the fim "An Inconvernient Truth" where it talks about the "slowing" or "stopping" of the gulfstream.

As far as Gore's lies, well he is an ex-politiician and he has already made millions from global warming, and he also stands to make billions from carbon trading... Gore made the statements in his film and the courts proved the statements to be false. Consequently they are Gore's lies. He has a vested interested.

Wikipedia. Oh yes, what a good and unbiased reference source... :rolleyes:

Deancm Mar 6th 2010 11:44 am
Re: Global warming
 
Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 8398450)
But let's not let those sort of facts get in the way of a good rant to the contrary.
Who said they were facts? Can you prove it? Provide any evidence?

Deancm Mar 6th 2010 11:47 am
Re: Global warming
 
Originally Posted by slapphead_otool (Post 8398599)
I must admit, the AGW mantra is used and twisted to account for almost everything . I’m surprised the JFK assassination wasn’t attributed to some effect of Global Warming.

However, the reason for posting the link was because the public, who are rapidly losing any confidence in IPCC and the AGW lobby, are going to look in askance when they are told about AGW and yet see 50 ships trapping in unseasonal ice.
Apparently the earthquake in Haiti was caused by global warming... :eek: That is anthropogenic global warming.

iolande Mar 6th 2010 5:46 pm
Re: Global warming
 
Originally Posted by Deancm (Post 8400205)
Where was I wrong when I quoted Wol's comment? BE did it for me so the quote was exactly what Wol wrote.

The part about stopping was a direct reference to the fim "An Inconvernient Truth" where it talks about the "slowing" or "stopping" of the gulfstream.

As far as Gore's lies, well he is an ex-politiician and he has already made millions from global warming, and he also stands to make billions from carbon trading... Gore made the statements in his film and the courts proved the statements to be false. Consequently they are Gore's lies. He has a vested interested.

Wikipedia. Oh yes, what a good and unbiased reference source... :rolleyes:
Hasn't the gulfstream stopped before? :confused:

Lord_Farquar Mar 7th 2010 9:47 am
Re: Global warming
 
Originally Posted by iolande (Post 8400749)
Hasn't the gulfstream stopped before? :confused:
Yes approx 8,000 years ago.

iolande Mar 7th 2010 1:34 pm
Re: Global warming
 
Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8402274)
Yes approx 8,000 years ago.
and what happened in Nov 2004?

Lord_Farquar Mar 7th 2010 1:45 pm
Re: Global warming
 
Originally Posted by iolande (Post 8402657)
and what happened in Nov 2004?
Stopped for a few days apparently.

iolande Mar 7th 2010 2:05 pm
Re: Global warming
 
Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8402679)
Stopped for a few days apparently.
Couldn't the British High Court stop it?

That's one of the lies in Al Gore's film "An Inconvenient Truth" that the British High Court dispelled. The evidence proved to the court that slowing/stopping the gulfstream was a scientific impossibilty. I guess the British High Courts decision was the real inconvenient truth...

Lord_Farquar Mar 7th 2010 2:41 pm
Re: Global warming
 
Originally Posted by iolande (Post 8402717)
Couldn't the British High Court stop it?
You have to wonder where the British High Court got its evidence ;)

Maybe the Court should have got advice from scientists rather than landed gentry lobbyists?

iolande Mar 7th 2010 3:32 pm
Re: Global warming
 
Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8402799)
You have to wonder where the British High Court got its evidence ;)

Maybe the Court should have got advice from scientists rather than landed gentry lobbyists?
damn. I thought the British High Court was infallible :frown:

polyama May 30th 2010 2:23 pm
Re: Global warming
 
Is global cooling around the corner?
The UK and continental Europe could be gripped by more frequent cold winters in the future as a result of low solar activity, say researchers
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8615789.stm

Burbage May 30th 2010 2:30 pm
Re: Global warming
 
Originally Posted by polyama (Post 8600477)
Is global cooling around the corner?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8615789.stm
Obviously the amount of energy put out by the sun is something that the current climate models can only make assumptions about. If they have assumed that solar activity will remain as high as it was during the last half of the twentieth century, then their conclusions will be deeply flawed if that activity changes, either up or down.

Solar activity is the primary source of the heat energy in the climate system. Any changes in it will definitely affect the climate, as we know from historical data.


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