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Re: Global warming
Originally Posted by slapphead_otool
(Post 8372930)
The proportion of British adults who believe climate change is ''definitely'' a reality has dropped from 44 per cent to 31 per cent in the past year, according to the latest survey by Ipsos Mori.
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/ne...0224-p3mr.html this year just one in five people believed global warming to be caused by people, according to Edward Langley, Ipsos Mori's head of environment research.... :blink: |
Re: Global warming
Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
(Post 8372938)
Overall, about nine in 10 people questioned still appear to accept that some degree of global warming is happening.
As a fence sitter it is a worry that so many people can swing in the breeze, and possibly change lifestyles accordingly. I am not as yet convinced of AGW or even GW, but I do think we need to take more care of our home. |
Re: Global warming
Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
(Post 8372938)
Overall, about nine in 10 people questioned still appear to accept that some degree of global warming is happening.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode..._Human_Planet/ |
Re: Global warming
More on the poor quality data practices used in the AGW debate:
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/co...0226-p92h.html The UK Met office stuffed up 28% of the oceanic records ,and some of the US weather data, with 121 stations assigned to the wrong location or overwritten in the calculations. The World Meteorological Organisation now propose a “New International Analysis of Land Surface Air Temperature Data'', in an effort to reanalyse surface temperature data. As Dr Graham-Cumming says, ''But it does show the need for open-source data. We open up software and data and it eliminates problems. 'There are lots of people with a background in maths and programming. If you open it up, there will be many eyes cast across the data and you can find problems without having to go to expensive reviews. 'There are hundreds of enthusiastic amateurs who will have a go and do it non-politically.'' |
Re: Global warming
And FINALLY the future of Dr “voodoo Science†Pachauri is under question.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...t-inquiry.html Take note of things like “Closed session†in Bali (nice and warm this time of year, why not New York in the snow), and “sworn to secrecy†. Open and transparent, even in cleaning up its mess…… |
Re: Global warming
Originally Posted by slapphead_otool
(Post 8380402)
And FINALLY the future of Dr “voodoo Science†Pachauri is under question.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...t-inquiry.html Take note of things like “Closed session†in Bali (nice and warm this time of year, why not New York in the snow), and “sworn to secrecy†. Open and transparent, even in cleaning up its mess…… Just wish they would sack him and have done with it. Make up something. Why not - he has. |
Re: Global warming
Not really AGW, however it is worth noting this article:
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/50...0305-pmbi.html About 50 ships, including large ferries carrying thousands of people, are stuck in ice in the Baltic Sea, Swedish maritime authorities said. "Around 50 commercial vessels are waiting for help from ice breakers (and) we have had as many as six large passenger ferries stuck, but have managed to free two of them," Johny Lindvall of the Swedish Maritime Administration's ice breaker unit said. Mr Lindvall said he had not seen a situation with so many ships stuck at once since the mid-1980s. Bring on that AGW...... Free the Ships...... |
Re: Global warming
Meanwhile, back at HQ:
The European Union is drawing up plans for its first direct tax with a "green" levy on petrol, coal and natural gas that could cost British consumers up to £3 billion. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...fuel-levy.html Put your hand in your pockets lads……. |
Re: Global warming
Ah, there's life in this old thread yet :D
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Re: Global warming
Originally Posted by slapphead_otool
(Post 8395241)
Not really AGW, however it is worth noting this article:
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/50...0305-pmbi.html About 50 ships, including large ferries carrying thousands of people, are stuck in ice in the Baltic Sea, Swedish maritime authorities said. "Around 50 commercial vessels are waiting for help from ice breakers (and) we have had as many as six large passenger ferries stuck, but have managed to free two of them," Johny Lindvall of the Swedish Maritime Administration's ice breaker unit said. Mr Lindvall said he had not seen a situation with so many ships stuck at once since the mid-1980s. Bring on that AGW...... Free the Ships...... |
Re: Global warming
Originally Posted by Wol
(Post 8395330)
One of the effects of GW is forecast to be a slowing of the gulfstream and harder winters in Europe...
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Re: Global warming
Originally Posted by Wol
(Post 8395330)
One of the effects of GW is forecast to be a slowing of the gulfstream and harder winters in Europe...
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Re: Global warming
Originally Posted by Deancm
(Post 8398460)
That's one of the lies in Al Gore's film "An Inconvenient Truth" that the British High Court dispelled. The evidence proved to the court that slowing/stopping the gulfstream was a scientific impossibilty. I guess the British High Courts decision was the real inconvenient truth...
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Re: Global warming
Originally Posted by Wol
(Post 8395330)
One of the effects of GW is forecast to be a slowing of the gulfstream and harder winters in Europe...
Originally Posted by Deancm
(Post 8398460)
That's one of the lies in Al Gore's film "An Inconvenient Truth" that the British High Court dispelled. The evidence proved to the court that slowing/stopping the gulfstream was a scientific impossibilty. I guess the British High Courts decision was the real inconvenient truth...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimmock...ion_and_Skills 3.The Gulf Stream would be shut down by global warming, causing sharp cooling in northwest Europe. Gore's view: "One of the [scenarios] they are most worried about where they have spent a lot of time studying the problem is the North Atlantic, where the Gulf Stream comes up and meets the cold wind coming off the Arctic over Greenland and evaporates the heat out of the Gulf Stream and the stream is carried over to western Europe by the prevailing winds and the earth's rotation ... they call it the Ocean Conveyor. At the end of the last ice age … that pump shut off and the heat transfer stopped and Europe went back into an ice age for another 900 or 1,000 years. Of course that's not going to happen again, because glaciers of North America are not there. Is there any big chunk of ice anywhere near there? Oh yeah. [points at Greenland]"[20] Justice Burton's view: "According to the IPCC, it is very unlikely that the Ocean Conveyor (known technically as the Meridional Overturning Circulation or thermohaline circulation) will shut down in the future, though it is considered likely that thermohaline circulation may slow down."[19] Other scientific views: A group of 12 climatologists was surveyed on this question in 2006 by Kirsten Zickfeld of the University of Victoria, Canada. Assuming a temperature rise of 4°C (7.2 °F) by 2100, eight of them assessed the probability of thermohaline circulation collapse as significantly above zero; three estimated a probability of 40% or higher. [24] |
Re: Global warming
Originally Posted by Wol
(Post 8395330)
One of the effects of GW is forecast to be a slowing of the gulfstream and harder winters in Europe...
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