They could start by digging a channel from the top of Australia to the bottom, and stick a few desal plants all the way along it. Might even get a tidal flow to create electricity ?

How long did they take to do the 192 km Suez Canal, without the equipment we have today ?

All the way down the WA State line. The buggers would be after independance in a flash

But wouldn't the Timor Sea just flow down to the Bight? It's downhill all the way on my map.

It's funny because that's how we visualize it. It's at the top, so it must flow to the bottom.

And, no doubt, rotate anticlockwise <g>.

Stop it...


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I was thinking the same

Yessir! Straightaway sir!

(Bends over....)

I have been stuck internet less for a week on a tropical island, but did have access to BBC world service.

I was dying of laughter as I listened to the wrap up of Copenhagen (with politicians and pressure groups trying desperately to put a positive spin on it) and hearing in the same news broadcasts about the coldest winter in the USA for 10 years, most of Europe shut off, the Chunnel buggered due to cold and ice etc. Sadly about 90 people died in Europe and about 15 in the USA.

I know one swallow doesn’t make a summer, but I did think it ironic that some of the delegates for a bloody global warming conference couldn’t get home because of deep snow.

The conference panned out exactly as I expected.

The third world have been “bought off” on global warming with the promise of great wealth. Sadly they realised at Copenhagen that it just isn’t going to materialise to the extent they expected, and so they stalled and delayed, hoping for bigger slices of the cake.

China was hoping its competitors would strangle themselves with their own stupidity, thus handing them an open goalmouth. When it became obvious that wasn’t about to happen China picked up its ball land went home.

The developed world offered talk and a few cuts on carbon, but only if it was matched by everyone else. When they saw that wasn’t going to happen they too packed up and buggered off.

If I had to predict what happens next:
There will be a push to tax imports from countries that don’t agree to the cuts (a Carbon Import Tax), thus pressuring India and China to make the reductions or become uncompetitive. China will retaliate by revealing some evidence of its own that global warming isn’t proven.

Then the fun starts….

You guys sound just like my mum...when driving downhill she used to think we were heading south !

PS That's maybe why so many Scots go 'down' to London, where many English say going 'up' to London

Just bumping up this thread.......

Things arent looking too hot (pun intended) for AGW and the IPCC right now.
Copenhagen collapsed like a snowman in the Sahara. Everyone wants money, no one wants to pay.

The worst winter for 40 years didn’t help sell the global warming message either. Hundreds froze to death... My home town was cut off with 6 feet of snow.

Then it turns out the IPPC incorporated dodgy data in the 2007 report saying that the Himalayan glaciers would be gone by 2035. Even some of their own guys said it was rubbish (they found it on a WWF web site) but the head of the IPCC insisted it go in the report anyway. He had to since he had used it to secure massive research funding for his own organisation. (I thought that was illegal, but we are talking UN here, so it probably doesn’t count). Late last year Indian scientists pointed out the error, but the IPCC head Pachauri (who is getting 2.8 Million pounds for glacier research based on this 2035 date) said they were using “Voodoo Science”.

He would, wouldn’t he, to paraphrase Christine Keeler...

I daresay Pachauri will be looking for a new job soon.....

Interesting way to get a Nobel prize – develop a crap theory, trawl the internet for unverified data to support it and ask for money.....

But wait, there is more....

Now the link between natural disasters and “global warming” also contained in the 2007 report has been proved to be codswallop. Even the IPCC have admitted so. Kofi Annan famous comment that 300,000 die each year because of global warming has been shown to be pure rubbish.

I cant wait for next weeks instalment.....

A bit earlier than I apticipated:

From Financial Times Jan 25 2010

China appeared to cast doubts yesterday on the scientific consensus on the underlying causes of global warming, with a senior official saying that Beijing had an "open attitude" towards what he described as "disputes in the scientific community" on the issue.

"There is a view that climate change is caused by cyclical trends in nature itself," Xie Zhenhua, vice-chairman of China's National Development and Reforms Commission, told a press conference in New Delhi. "We have to keep an open attitude."

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d773c6bc-0...44feabdc0.html

Hardly suprising that China doubts climate change. I wonder why.

I am hoping that the global doubts now surfacing and not being shouted down as witchcraft and heresy concerning the whole man made carbon issue will happen in time enough to see the killing of the ETS.

I agree LF, it seems the West is playing cricket and other countries are playing Rugby Union.

India is even worse than China, as its asking the West for financial assistance for damage done by global warming, but wont pay for the damage its doing itself (not that it is doing any damage, unless you believe in AGW).

AGW is fast becoming a movement for socialist issues, and China doesn’t want any part of it. Mind you, based upon most polls neither do taxpayers here or in the UK (or USA for that matter).

I am still open on the whole subject, and i am not happy with what we are doing to the planet. Google Malaya and look at housing estates and industrial parks. When i was a kid my nephew was fighting in rubber plantations. All gone now....

Fly over Borneo (Kalimentan) and see forests disappearing at an incredible rate.

But i wont accept rubbish science from the UN....