The Future of Australia
#76
Australia's biggest export destinations are China, the US and Japan. The state of Australia's economy is down to the huge commodities boom that Chindia is generating. Take away the commodities and the housing market will dive as this country has higher levels of consumer debt that the US. Take away housing and commodities and this country will be like anywhere else in the sub prime mess.
The big question is when will China's boom end? China's boom is built on excessive credit and just like the rest of Asia in 1997 and any other credit led boom it will bust. Hopefully by that point the US and Japan will be back online.
The other wonderful thing about commodites exports is that they bring the government billions in tax royalties that mean Australia has been able to slash income tax rates and fund some pork barrelled election campaigns. This is despite the need for critical infrastructure projects so we have fresh water, electricity and schools for the 125,000 a year migration intake.
The big question is when will China's boom end? China's boom is built on excessive credit and just like the rest of Asia in 1997 and any other credit led boom it will bust. Hopefully by that point the US and Japan will be back online.
The other wonderful thing about commodites exports is that they bring the government billions in tax royalties that mean Australia has been able to slash income tax rates and fund some pork barrelled election campaigns. This is despite the need for critical infrastructure projects so we have fresh water, electricity and schools for the 125,000 a year migration intake.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22971594-2,00.html
The savings held in Superannuation are creating new wealth in this country.
#78
$5billion+ is being invested in the power grid in WA. New power stations, substations (50 132kV subs), power lines.
We have new rail, port and road projects being built or planned.
Infrastructure investment could be better but it is happening.
#79
WA has built a desal plant and is building another - part of $4billion in water investment.
$5billion+ is being invested in the power grid in WA. New power stations, substations (50 132kV subs), power lines.
We have new rail, port and road projects being built or planned.
Infrastructure investment could be better but it is happening.
$5billion+ is being invested in the power grid in WA. New power stations, substations (50 132kV subs), power lines.
We have new rail, port and road projects being built or planned.
Infrastructure investment could be better but it is happening.
Victoria is about to start the building the biggest Desalination plant in the Southern Hemp... costing 3.1 billion dollars. The first stage starts in the next few weeks.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...19/1955634.htm
#80
Wouldn't be quite so sure on that one Bix. Victoria can access it's water if necessary from the average wettest part of Australia at a cost of course. The wettest part of Australia isn't the tropics, but in fact Mt. Read in Western tasmania (near Zeehan, Rosebery and Queenstown) Last calendar year it had 4.700mm of rain. In difference to North Queensland it rains often continuously for month, in the tropics all the rain comes down in short bursts., hence the average wettest place is Western Tasmania. The average for Lake Margaret in Western Tasmania is consistently 250 days of rain per year.
One 2.5 metre Gravity fed pipe line to the lowest reserve catchment, in Victoria (under Bass strait .... damn (lol) expensive) and then modifying the current irrigation water grid between here and NSW and SA. Then using the funds that the sales of this water brings in to finance further mechanical pump water from the West Coast of Tassie.
Which scenario do you think is more likely a Mass exodus to the north, or 4 States contributing to this Dam and pipeline ?
There has been background talk on the possibility of this for years now, the more the South dries up the more likely it will be that this project will happen. The was a discussion on 3AW about this very topic last week.
Even if that doesnt happen, there would be plenty of people like myself, that would prefer the temperate climate of Tassie to the forever present heat of the North. IE: there would be plenty of people that move south... A bit like the many native Qlanders that move to Victoria...
Last edited by ozzieeagle; Jan 13th 2008 at 2:49 pm.
#81
I have the solution Ozzi.
We can all up sticks and make a beeline to NZ.
Plenty of water, plenty of room and plenty of sheep
We can all up sticks and make a beeline to NZ.
Plenty of water, plenty of room and plenty of sheep
#82









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50% of exports are from mining. The manufacturing sector is now suffering from the high dollar caused by the commodities.
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Yes the boom here is largely commodity driven, but at times of non boom Australia tends to hold it's place amongst world nations. There has been a very large change in the per capita rakings in the last 12 months as shown in this article. Currently this country is moving up the ranks compared to other nations.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22971594-2,00.html
The savings held in Superannuation are creating new wealth in this country.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22971594-2,00.html
The savings held in Superannuation are creating new wealth in this country.
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There is little difference between a UK personal pension plan and super. At least the UK plan is transportable overseas. The real winners in both countries are those still on final salary/defined benefits schemes. Those are fast disappearing in both the UK and here. The big losers are those in the UK with no pension plan whatsoever.
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Joined: Jun 2006
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Yes the boom here is largely commodity driven, but at times of non boom Australia tends to hold it's place amongst world nations. There has been a very large change in the per capita rakings in the last 12 months as shown in this article. Currently this country is moving up the ranks compared to other nations.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22971594-2,00.html
The savings held in Superannuation are creating new wealth in this country.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22971594-2,00.html
The savings held in Superannuation are creating new wealth in this country.
#86
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There is little difference between a UK personal pension plan and super. At least the UK plan is transportable overseas. The real winners in both countries are those still on final salary/defined benefits schemes. Those are fast disappearing in both the UK and here. The big losers are those in the UK with no pension plan whatsoever.
With super your employer contributes and amount equal to 9% of your salary (with 15% of that going to the tax man). With UK private pension you pay out of your salary (albeit before tax). The 12.8%* employer contribution in the UK goes into a common pot from which you will get a fixed pension unrelated to the size of the contribution.
I think there's a big difference. Super is much better (despite having a transportability restriction).
* over the threshold.
#87









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Depends on how you look at it.
With super your employer contributes and amount equal to 9% of your salary (with 15% of that going to the tax man). With UK private pension you pay out of your salary (albeit before tax). The 12.8%* employer contribution in the UK goes into a common pot from which you will get a fixed pension unrelated to the size of the contribution.
I think there's a big difference. Super is much better (despite having a transportability restriction).
* over the threshold.
With super your employer contributes and amount equal to 9% of your salary (with 15% of that going to the tax man). With UK private pension you pay out of your salary (albeit before tax). The 12.8%* employer contribution in the UK goes into a common pot from which you will get a fixed pension unrelated to the size of the contribution.
I think there's a big difference. Super is much better (despite having a transportability restriction).
* over the threshold.
I am a fan of compulsory super. In the UK you just have a choice but unfortunately too many chose to have no pension fund.
#88
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When you negotiate a package here super is included. The main thing is in the UK you must take into account what you need for a pension when negotiating a salary. Here the company takes into account the super when working out your package cost which pushes the wage down by the amount of super.
I am a fan of compulsory super. In the UK you just have a choice but unfortunately too many chose to have no pension fund.
I am a fan of compulsory super. In the UK you just have a choice but unfortunately too many chose to have no pension fund.
What's bizarre about this is that a lot of UK bods that come here see the super contributions as a tax (when it is not) and are unaware that the UK equivalent (which is a tax) exists.
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WA has built a desal plant and is building another - part of $4billion in water investment.
$5billion+ is being invested in the power grid in WA. New power stations, substations (50 132kV subs), power lines.
We have new rail, port and road projects being built or planned.
Infrastructure investment could be better but it is happening.
$5billion+ is being invested in the power grid in WA. New power stations, substations (50 132kV subs), power lines.
We have new rail, port and road projects being built or planned.
Infrastructure investment could be better but it is happening.
Electricity is going to be privatised (if the unions do not block it) and the hope is that will raise enough to boost the grid.
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Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,555

Yes the boom here is largely commodity driven, but at times of non boom Australia tends to hold it's place amongst world nations. There has been a very large change in the per capita rakings in the last 12 months as shown in this article. Currently this country is moving up the ranks compared to other nations.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22971594-2,00.html
The savings held in Superannuation are creating new wealth in this country.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22971594-2,00.html
The savings held in Superannuation are creating new wealth in this country.





