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esperanza Jun 25th 2007 11:01 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 
It occurs to me that this is a very christo-centric (is that a word? well, I like it) debate thus far - does anyone have any knowledge of other religions and how they treat their scriptures/holy writings? Do the same flaws exist? Are there the same political connotations that "the church" (esp the catholic church, perhaps) seems unwilling or unable to extricate itself from?

lesleys Jun 25th 2007 11:03 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 
1.Religious faith is always learned from other humans - written or spoken words.

Communities never take up a new religion without an external human intervention.


2. Do animals have souls? If not, why not?

esperanza Jun 25th 2007 11:12 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by lesleys (Post 4970593)
1.Religious faith is always learned from other humans - written or spoken words.

Communities never take up a new religion without an external human intervention.

Well.... unless God speaks to them, that is.


2. Do animals have souls? If not, why not?

Do people have souls? There was a study once that weighed dying animals to see if they got lighter when they died, and that was the weight of their soul. Here it is http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp and here http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/soul-search

northerner Jun 25th 2007 11:25 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by arkon (Post 4970563)
What happens and what will religion and Christians in particular think and say, on the day we discover sentient life on another planet? What of God and the bible then? Will you still believe?

There is no life on other planets - what was that you keep saying about fairy tales, or are we now talking comic books? ;)

Graham

arkon Jun 25th 2007 11:27 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by northerner (Post 4970666)
There is no life on other planets - what was that you keep saying about fairy tales, or are we now talking comic books? ;)

Graham

So are you telling me becuse your religion makes no reference to any other life apart from what is on this earth, therefore there can't be anywhere else?

If so the day we find some is going to really shatter some peoples beliefs.

*edit, I've just notice my syntax going all to pot tonight. must be my head causing it. So I'm off to bed. Speak to you all tommorrow.

lesleys Jun 25th 2007 11:28 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by northerner (Post 4970666)
There is no life on other planets - what was that you keep saying about fairy tales, or are we now talking comic books? ;)

Graham

How do you KNOW?

arkon Jun 25th 2007 11:30 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by lesleys (Post 4970679)
How do you KNOW?

Probably because it DOESN'T say so in the bible. LOL.

lesleys Jun 25th 2007 11:31 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by esperanza (Post 4970620)
Do people have souls?

Not in my opinion. But others may care to differ.

northerner Jun 25th 2007 11:31 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by arkon (Post 4970674)
So are you telling me becuse your religion makes no reference to any other life apart from what is on this earth, therefore there can't be anywhere else?

If so the day we find some is going to really shatter some peoples beliefs.

I'm not really a religious bloke in the sense that I'm not a practising Christian and if I was my view on 'aliens' has nothing to do with what is, or is not, written in the Bible.

Graham

esperanza Jun 25th 2007 11:33 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by arkon (Post 4970684)
Probably because it DOESN'T say so in the bible. LOL.

I bet it does somewhere, you're probably just not looking hard enough. Or it will be in one of them there apocryphal tales...

northerner Jun 25th 2007 11:35 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by arkon (Post 4970684)
Probably because it DOESN'T say so in the bible. LOL.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. I just don't believe there are other living beings out there. Simple as that.

Graham

northerner Jun 25th 2007 11:40 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 
Blimey I just noticed that I crept over 1000 posts without even realising. You have a lot to answer for Arkon :lol:

Hutch Jun 25th 2007 11:54 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by esperanza (Post 4970694)
I bet it does somewhere, you're probably just not looking hard enough. Or it will be in one of them there apocryphal tales...

Blimey - you were right. Found this in the book of Zaphod Beeblebrox (12:21)
And lo, the mighty wing'ed chariot did befoul the temple with its firey potrusions. For two horn'ed creatures - putrid and burned off hellfire - calling themselves Gareth and Darren - did rise up from the chariot and like a trumpet from the very bowels of hell did they proclaim unto Nathaniel and Nathaniels wife and Nathaniels sister's half-brother's cousin Tracy - "I ****ing told you to let me drive."

arkon Jun 26th 2007 12:15 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by Hutch (Post 4970781)
Blimey - you were right. Found this in the book of Zaphod Beeblebrox (12:21)
And lo, the mighty wing'ed chariot did befoul the temple with its firey potrusions. For two horn'ed creatures - putrid and burned off hellfire - calling themselves Gareth and Darren - did rise up from the chariot and like a trumpet from the very bowels of hell did they proclaim unto Nathaniel and Nathaniels wife and Nathaniels sister's half-brother's cousin Tracy - "I ****ing told you to let me drive."

Check out Ezekiel too, Chapter 1 he witnesses UFO's landing. Even describes some kind of wheeled car. Worth a read, as it reads like an episode of Stargate.

pommybird Jun 26th 2007 12:19 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by Hutch (Post 4970781)
Blimey - you were right. Found this in the book of Zaphod Beeblebrox (12:21)
And lo, the mighty wing'ed chariot did befoul the temple with its firey potrusions. For two horn'ed creatures - putrid and burned off hellfire - calling themselves Gareth and Darren - did rise up from the chariot and like a trumpet from the very bowels of hell did they proclaim unto Nathaniel and Nathaniels wife and Nathaniels sister's half-brother's cousin Tracy - "I ****ing told you to let me drive."

:rofl:Nice one Hutch! Best laugh I've had all week!

On a separate note just can I just say what an absolute pleasure to join in with and read such a lively, healthy debate - although on a subject that can often be so contentious we have all managed to remain very calm and quite balanced with no name calling - look at us we're all grown up!:thumbsup:


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