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Old Apr 25th 2010 | 7:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Officer Dibble
As Ive discovered from the info Ive gathered from this thread and associated links, theres almost no way to tell by looking, if a dog has any Pitbull in it at all. The thing is that I actually know for a fact that my pup is a Pitbull/Staffy cross. What do you suggest, I should hand her over to the authorities without delay because a couple of jumped up know-it-alls on a British Expats forum say so? Dont make me laugh.
No problem, you keep it.... and when it attacks somebody don't forget to say "it's never done anything like that before" because that will obviously make it all OK.
 
Old Apr 25th 2010 | 7:57 pm
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Originally Posted by scottandsel
well funny enough i would have thought the part where i quoted you, would have given you an indication that, that part was for you and the part where i quoted aspirilla was for them!

Originally Posted by scottandsel
this is why the pitbulls/bad breeds etc have a bad name, as someone said dogs have for many years been a fashion accessory; don't put all owners of bulldogs in the same category - there are many responsible bulldog owners out there.

http://www.canadasguidetodogs.com/bsl/wwdt_6.htm


a pitbull just like any other dog brought up by someone who genuinly knew what they were doing, with more than an ounce of knowledge about the breed who wouldn't be so flippant as to just go out an buy one jus cos its a status symbol, could have a dog jus as good as fido the labrador!
what im trying to get across is that all dogs can be dangerous in the wrong hands whatever it is! to quote a famous saying "a gun doesnt kill people - people do!"

an i put this;

oh an for your info i have kept and bred boxers for nearly 18 years now, i am a resposible dog owner/breeder - i love the breed, and i breed with an intent to help eradicate the heart defect that boxers can carry through years of irresponsible inbreeding - the reason i went with boxers in the first place was they were recommended on querie with the uk kennel club as the second best dog to have with kids - the first was the staffie bull terrier - classed as a bull dog ... as are my boxers - we never went with staffies cos yes at the time there was a stigma

as i thought you were saying i was an idiot for having pitbull type dogs an i went off on a tangent for which i apologise as i dont have pitbull type dogs i have boxers
I can't make head nor tales of this posting... if you want to quote me, then quote ME... if you want to quote somebody else then quote THEM.

The one bit I did get is "a pitbull just like any other dog".... well sorry, but NO, its not. Check out the number of fatal attacks carried out by dogs and then see just what percentage of them is carried out by pitbulls.
 
Old Apr 25th 2010 | 7:58 pm
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oh for gods sake - how old are you? an just outta curiosity have you got dogs and what breed are they?
 
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Can you give me one sensible argument for keeping a pitbull?


http://www.canadasguidetodogs.com/bsl/wwdt_6.htm

a pitbull just like any other dog brought up by someone who genuinly knew what they were doing, with more than an ounce of knowledge about the breed who wouldn't be so flippant as to just go out an buy one jus cos its a status symbol, could have a dog jus as good as fido the labrador!
what im trying to get across is that all dogs can be dangerous in the wrong hands whatever it is! to quote a famous saying "a gun doesnt kill people - people do!"
 
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
I can't make head nor tales of this posting... if you want to quote me, then quote ME... if you want to quote somebody else then quote THEM.

The one bit I did get is "a pitbull just like any other dog".... well sorry, but NO, its not. Check out the number of fatal attacks carried out by dogs and then see just what percentage of them is carried out by pitbulls.
no you scanned my posts and saw what you wanted an responded to that an only that - if yu had read them properly yu'd have understood exactly what i was saying an what i was responding to
 
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Originally Posted by scottandsel
oh for gods sake - how old are you? an just outta curiosity have you got dogs and what breed are they?
How old am I? What the bloody Hell has that got to do with your posting skills?

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Originally Posted by scottandsel
no you scanned my posts and saw what you wanted an responded to that an only that - if yu had read them properly yu'd have understood exactly what i was saying an what i was responding to
I can't read them properly FFS.. that was my point.. they are all over the bloody place. They make no sense
 
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Originally Posted by scottandsel
http://www.canadasguidetodogs.com/bsl/wwdt_6.htm

a pitbull just like any other dog brought up by someone who genuinly knew what they were doing, with more than an ounce of knowledge about the breed who wouldn't be so flippant as to just go out an buy one jus cos its a status symbol, could have a dog jus as good as fido the labrador!
what im trying to get across is that all dogs can be dangerous in the wrong hands whatever it is! to quote a famous saying "a gun doesnt kill people - people do!"
Bollocks... you are trying to claim that pitbulls are no more likely to attack people, or other dogs, than lets say, a chiuaua, which is patent nonsense. As a breed, a pitbull is MUCH more likely to be agressive, no matter how well its been trained.. its in its nature.
 
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
when it attacks somebody don't forget to say "it's never done anything like that before" because that will obviously make it all OK.
because of this rather immature response .... vizla attacking child in home take a look - yu may have a dangerous breed - dont forget to quote yourself - make sure i get this correct;

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
when it attacks somebody don't forget to say "it's never done anything like that before" because that will obviously make it all OK.
http://www.vizslaforums.com/index.php?topic=662.0
 
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Originally Posted by Officer Dibble
As Ive discovered from the info Ive gathered from this thread and associated links, theres almost no way to tell by looking, if a dog has any Pitbull in it at all. The thing is that I actually know for a fact that my pup is a Pitbull/Staffy cross. What do you suggest, I should hand her over to the authorities without delay because a couple of jumped up know-it-alls on a British Expats forum say so? Dont make me laugh.
You didn't actually answer my original question...


Can you give me one sensible argument for keeping a pitbull?

Why do people choose a breed of dog that they know is statistically much more likely to attack than any other breed of dog?
 
Old Apr 25th 2010 | 8:19 pm
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Originally Posted by scottandsel
because of this rather immature response .... vizla attacking child in home take a look - yu may have a dangerous breed - dont forget to quote yourself - make sure i get this correct;



http://www.vizslaforums.com/index.php?topic=662.0
Well done.. you have found one example of a Vizsla trying to bite somebody.
Do I need to post multiple examples of Pitbulls killing people or shall we just take it as a given?
 
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
Well done.. you have found one example of a Vizsla trying to bite somebody.
Do I need to post multiple examples of Pitbulls killing people or shall we just take it as a given?
i'm saying the reason why pitbulls/staffies/english bulls etc have got bad press is due to the twats that have them thinkin they are a status symbol when they know nothing about the breed/size they get too, prob even what to feed them! of course a large dog will do more damage than a (think you meant) chihuahua, whatever that large dog is.

i'll quote myself again .....

a pitbull just like any other dog brought up by someone who genuinly knew what they were doing, with more than an ounce of knowledge about the breed who wouldn't be so flippant as to just go out an buy one jus cos its a status symbol, could have a dog jus as good as fido the labrador!
what im trying to get across is that all dogs can be dangerous in the wrong hands whatever it is!
to quote a famous saying "a gun doesnt kill people - people do!"

I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this - ive known people who've had bad dogs an they havnt been in the so called "bad dog" brigade an ive known people who have had good dogs that have been!
 
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
You didn't actually answer my original question...


Can you give me one sensible argument for keeping a pitbull?

i believe i did!

Why do people choose a breed of dog that they know is statistically much more likely to attack than any other breed of dog?
probably because they know the breed and know in responsible hands is just like any other dog
 
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Originally Posted by scottandsel
to quote a famous saying "a gun doesnt kill people - people do!"
A gun is an inanimate object. It doesn't have a brain and won't fire unless a person pulls the trigger.

A dog on the other hand is an animal with a brain and a natural instinct. They can be aggressive, defensive, protective and unpredictable. Dogs can and do bite people without human intervention.
 
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Originally Posted by scottandsel
what im trying to get across is that all dogs can be dangerous in the wrong hands whatever it is![/COLOR] to quote a famous saying "a gun doesnt kill people - people do!"

I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this - ive known people who've had bad dogs an they havnt been in the so called "bad dog" brigade an ive known people who have had good dogs that have been!
...and what I'm trying to get across is that all dogs are NOT the same. Some breeds, notable pitbull types, are much more likely to attack than other types, no matter how well trained they are. It's in their nature.

Would my Viszla bite you?... push him enough and he probably would, but vitally, you would have to push him very very very hard before he would attack.... its just not part of his breed type. Vizsla's have been bred for centuries to be a gun dog, to work alongside man, and not as an attack dog or a dog that will jump to the defence of its owner at a moments notice.

I don't care how much or how well trained a pitbull is... by its very nature they are prone to attack... and as such have, at least as far as I am concerned, no place in an urban environment. Authorities around the world seem to agree with me.
 


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