Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11022074)

Where did I say we don't need vitamins.

There is an advertiser on the TV that points out to obtain the levels of omega 6 or 3 or whatever it is would mean eating a couple of dozen tuna - no way can you do that naturally. If you can't do it naturally, why would you think that you need to ingest that level of omega oils. (And if those numbers are wrong, I'm not going for a literal recollection of the advert, just the idea)

Large doses of some vitamins are toxic. Some pharmaceuticals only contain naturally occurring substances too - and they are tested for their efficacy and safety (although I admit mistakes happen)

GP's are not beholden to pharmaceutical companies - not the ones I know anyway.

People will do their own research if they want - what you are posting is all out there on the net - let them do their own research and get on with your life. You do not need to drag this up week after week - yopu may be a strong person, but it is obviously on your mind. Working directly with people will have a better impact if that is what you want than posting mind numbing overly long youtube clips. If you want to recommend the work of particular individuals, mention their name - tell us a bit about what area they work in, but dont just post videos that are meaningless without context. what works for one complaint will not work for all complaints. Someone suffering from one disorder may decide on the basis of your evidence to stop taking their treatment which may be highly effective for them, and go and buy vit c in Chemart - then go on to take their lives and / or others. People suffering depression are vulnerable - don't prey on that vulnerability. Offer advice and point them in the direction of whatever healthcare professional works for you - alternative or otherwise

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 11022612)

Who said you weren't entitled to your opinion?

Quite the opposite - you are telling Paul he's not entitled to his!

Stop this passive aggressive behaviour and twisting words round :rolleyes:

It doesn't wash with everyone - except of course your mates in the tut tut brigade :p

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 11022613)

Funny you know, a whole stack of what you have said here (and also in your posts that preceded this) demonstrates that you haven't read my replies or watched any of the content. I can address each and every one of your "issues" one by one but you won't be reading them will you so what's the point in wasting my time with you? You have decided (with the influence of the usual person, no doubt ;)) to attack and attempt to discredit everything I have said. There is something very insincere about what you are doing - demonstrated by your passive-aggressive style. You've been rumbled :sneaky:

Originally Posted by Sue (Post 11022619)

I don't see any "passive aggressive behaviour" in this thread. People are just sharing their thoughts and opinions. We ALL have varying degrees of experience in some way or other with this subject, and, as in everyday life, our mileage varies.

There are many ways to look at this issue, so lets not poo poo each others thoughts and opinions. What works for one, doesn't necessarily work for another, and vice versa. it doesn't make the other person's opinion any less valid though.

This thread isn't just for one person to post in and we are all entitled to share our opinions as long as it's done respectfully.

Thanks

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11022636)

I would read what you have to say - I don't read all the links you post nor watch the youtube videos - I tried some and found them very fake - perhaps I picked the wrong ones.

As I said, I re-read the whole thread again last night as I was worried about being too harsh and I will say that some of the videos you have posted have since been removed from the youtube site so are no longer watchable.

I also noted that in more than one of your posts you supported high doses of a vitamin that is noted for it's toxicity - and we've had this discussion before. If you advocate something that is potentially harmful, you need to make that clear.

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 11022744)

Great, now we're getting somewhere. Which videos did you find fake and which harmful at high doses vitamin was I advocating?

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11022820)

Lack of vitamin D has been associated with mental problems.

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11022830)

Too much vitamin D is toxic though the same as most things done to excess. The listed symptoms of Vitamin D toxicity include poor appetite, nausea and vomiting. Weakness, frequent urination and kidney problems also may occur. Vitamin D overdose can cause a build up of Calcium in the blood. Doses over the RDA should be under medical supervision

Edit - sorry, too little vit D will reduce the ability to uptake calcium as well I believe. In areas such as Australia where the use of sunblock can prevent the body producing vit D, a supplement may be needed - but not a megadose - just to RDA

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11022870)

Actually it is very, very difficult to take too much vitamin D. The RDA is set very low. (My husband's life's work is research in this field).

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11022895)

That's good to know - so if taking megadoses it would still be difficult to cause a toxic level? And it's safe to order them off the internet for use without medical supervision?

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11022895)

That's good to know - so if taking megadoses it would still be difficult to cause a toxic level? And it's safe to order them off the internet for use without medical supervision?

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11022902)

How much are you thinking of?

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11022912)

Sorry - did that wrong (will def blame long night) - I haven't ordered anything new. Trying to read the label on the high strength multi vit I think it says 1000IU 25mg - does that sound right?