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paulry Oct 13th 2013 11:56 pm

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Originally Posted by lesleys (Post 10943427)
Absolute twaddle, every aspect of your pronouncement.

Why do you think the brain isn't subject to physical disorders which manifest themseves as mental illness?

Depression does not generate inspired creativity. Bipolar sufferers are known for periods of huge energy and possibly creativity, but they have a different disorder from depression.

Anti-depressants which work properly free the patient of the impediment of dead-end thinking and restore a feeling of well-being and openness to ideas.

Crikey, are you lot taking it in turns now? :blink:

So what about Anti-depressants which don't work properly? Are they just a statistic?

paulry Oct 14th 2013 12:27 am

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paulry Oct 14th 2013 12:37 am

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Watch The Drum on ABC now

paulry Oct 14th 2013 7:55 am

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A great book


'A revolutionary book written with the calm assurance of someone who knows her subject matter – and the people involved - extremely well. Essential reading for anyone interested in mental health.' - Dorothy Rowe, www.dorothyrowe.com.au


'This is a sober and thoughtful book. I found it very engaging and worth the effort to be better informed about a subject that affects many of our clients and impinges on our professional lives as therapists.' - Existential Analysis (Society for Existential Analysis)

'...Joanna Moncrieff, a practising psychiatrist and academic, has produced a devastating critique of the use of psychiatric drugs...This courageous book has the potential to revolutionise psychiatric practice and the care of people with many forms of mental distress. Many in the therapy professions will, I am sure, celebrate its message.' - Rachel Freeth, Therapy Today

'This book does what it says on the cover. It is a concise, powerful, well-referenced and well-constructed critique of psychiatric drug treatment...If I had the power to, I would make it essential reading on all counselling and psychotherapy trainings.' - Pete Sanders, Healthcare Counselling and Psychotherapy Journal

'It should be compulsory reading for any person who thinks that people's behaviours and experiences are caused by chemical imbalances in their brain and that psychiatric medications treat these imbalances – psychiatrists, other professionals and people who are taking or considering taking these drugs...Read and share the book and speak out….come on - the emperor has no clothes!' - Guy Holmes, Journal of Critical Psychology, Counselling and Psychotherapy

'This remarkable book should be required reading...as the author exposes misconceptions and assumptions about biological mental illness...[it] is far from one-sided, and argues that rather than discarding drugs we should use them properly and concentrate on their effects rather than upon traditional but ultimately unscientific assumptions.' - Stuart Sorensen, Community Care

'This is a book that should change psychiatry forever.' Mental Health

lesleys Oct 14th 2013 9:48 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 10943520)
Crikey, are you lot taking it in turns now? :blink:

So what about Anti-depressants which don't work properly? Are they just a statistic?

I was referring to the patient getting the correct diagnosis, finding a treatment and dosage which suited them and produced a positive outcome. I realise that the type of anti-depressant might need to changed and the dose adjusted. Any treatment must be subject to review and revision if necessary.

paulry Oct 15th 2013 4:16 am

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by lesleys (Post 10944857)
I was referring to the patient getting the correct diagnosis, finding a treatment and dosage which suited them and produced a positive outcome. I realise that the type of anti-depressant might need to changed and the dose adjusted. Any treatment must be subject to review and revision if necessary.

Try telling that to my dead nephew who jumped off a building a few months after being prescribed anti depressants. :frown:

paulry Oct 17th 2013 12:10 pm

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A great site

Click "Nutrition Solutions" for specific nutrition advice by ailment.

paulry Oct 18th 2013 11:07 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 
From here


Steps to Better Health
Are You Sick of Sickness?
by Helen Saul Case
(OMNS Oct 19, 2013) Better health? It takes effort. You have got to want it, and then you have got to work for it. There is no one-step solution. We need to eat right, and drink plenty of water, and take our vitamins, and drink fresh, raw, vegetable juice, and exercise, and reduce stress. All of these things make your immune system stronger, and your body inhospitable to sickness. This isn't easy. But isn't suffering from illness harder?

eddie007 Oct 19th 2013 2:18 pm

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Originally Posted by paulry (Post 10945379)
Try telling that to my dead nephew who jumped off a building a few months after being prescribed anti depressants. :frown:


that does happen.... A person can be SO depressed that although they have suicidal ideation they cannot act upon it.... The antidepressant kicks in and they feel "well enough" to carry out their plans.


It's very sad.

paulry Oct 19th 2013 7:10 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by eddie007 (Post 10952092)
that does happen.... A person can be SO depressed that although they have suicidal ideation they cannot act upon it.... The antidepressant kicks in and they feel "well enough" to carry out their plans.

It's very sad.

That explanation could explain some post-medication suicides, but the specifics in his case don't suggest that at all.

His story has very many similarities to this one:


paulry Oct 27th 2013 3:35 am

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This bloke is an inspration


And a harm reduction guide to coming off psychiatric drugs and withdrawal

A ‘harm reduction’ approach means not being pro- or anti-medication, but supporting people to make their own decisions balancing the risks and benefits involved.

paulry Oct 30th 2013 9:39 am

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Treating ADHD with Vitamin B-3 (Niacinamide)


ADHD is not caused by a drug deficiency. But it may indeed be caused by profound nutrient deficiency, more accurately termed nutrient dependency. Although all nutrients are important, the one that an ADHD child is most likely in greatest need of is vitamin B-3, niacinamide.
The best non-flushing niacin that I've found that is also decently priced can be found here.

bitzenpces Oct 31st 2013 4:26 pm

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I just saw a poster for a community-based organisation called GROW, with local groups around Australia. I've spoken to a friend who is a counsellor and they have received positive reports about GROW. Details on their website http://www.grow.net.au/.

paulry Nov 9th 2013 7:56 pm

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Originally Posted by bitzenpces (Post 10972021)
I just saw a poster for a community-based organisation called GROW, with local groups around Australia. I've spoken to a friend who is a counsellor and they have received positive reports about GROW. Details on their website http://www.grow.net.au/.

:cool:

paulry Nov 9th 2013 7:56 pm

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