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bitzenpces Nov 9th 2013 11:23 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 
Crikey, paulry, are you BE's resident closet scientologist?:ohmy::blink::eek:

paulry Nov 9th 2013 11:32 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by bitzenpces (Post 10984667)
Crikey, paulry, are you BE's resident closet scientologist?:ohmy::blink::eek:

:ohmy::scaredhair: Scientologist!?! :eek::blink:

paulry Nov 9th 2013 11:39 pm

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Ah I see what you mean. Looks like the "church" of scientology has tried to hijack this good cause stated by the above video. I don't support that bunch of nutters' underlying cause in any way.

bitzenpces Nov 10th 2013 4:38 am

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Originally Posted by paulry (Post 10984677)
Ah I see what you mean. Looks like the "church" of scientology has tried to hijack this good cause stated by the above video. I don't support that bunch of nutters' underlying cause in any way.

The Citizens Commission on Human Rights (Australia) http://www.cchr.org.au/ is part of scientology, so you cannot trust anything they're involved with, in terms of a balanced argument. They might make some valid points, but ...

paulry Nov 10th 2013 6:49 am

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Originally Posted by bitzenpces (Post 10984904)
The Citizens Commission on Human Rights (Australia) http://www.cchr.org.au/ is part of scientology, so you cannot trust anything they're involved with, in terms of a balanced argument. They might make some valid points, but ...

I've taken a close look at their website and when it comes to stating the case for alternative treatments to the mainstream chemical ones they do a very good job of it. On the face of things at least, their claims are correct. However, most have also heard about people getting caught up with scientology and the damage it's caused them and their families. My advice would be to read the information provided on their site but whatever you do don't contact them.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/37422.html. See also the comments at this link.

It's such a disgrace that on the one hand people suffering with mental distress have pharmaceutical companies and mainstream treatments profiting from their plight and on the other we have a minefield of scientologists using the anti-pharmaceutical/mainstream treatment platform to lure in new members. :frown: What a desperate situation. :(

paulry Nov 13th 2013 12:38 am

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Interesting: antipsychiatry has many factions including scientology.

The Author of the above article: Craig Olson has written a lot of good pieces of work, the complete list is here.

jamesshaffer Nov 13th 2013 1:24 am

Re: Depression / anxiety
 
I'm almost sure that the depression and anxiety caused by the difficulties adapting to a new place do not require any special medication. It's all natural and changing the way the things go would be unnatural and possibly even dangerous. That's why it's better to give preference to alternative adaptation strategies, such as finding people who are in a similar situation and sharing your experiences with them, as well as going in for sports and getting a hobby. The best cure in the world is to be busy. Depression will miraculously disappear if you don't have time for it=)

carolinephillips Nov 13th 2013 7:29 am

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by jamesshaffer (Post 10989311)
I'm almost sure that the depression and anxiety caused by the difficulties adapting to a new place do not require any special medication. It's all natural and changing the way the things go would be unnatural and possibly even dangerous. That's why it's better to give preference to alternative adaptation strategies, such as finding people who are in a similar situation and sharing your experiences with them, as well as going in for sports and getting a hobby. The best cure in the world is to be busy. Depression will miraculously disappear if you don't have time for it=)

BUT, when you are depressed you cannot easily find the motivation to "be busy". That is like saying to someone "snap out of it".

bitzenpces Nov 13th 2013 10:17 am

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by jamesshaffer (Post 10989311)
I'm almost sure that the depression and anxiety caused by the difficulties adapting to a new place do not require any special medication. It's all natural and changing the way the things go would be unnatural and possibly even dangerous. That's why it's better to give preference to alternative adaptation strategies, such as finding people who are in a similar situation and sharing your experiences with them, as well as going in for sports and getting a hobby. The best cure in the world is to be busy. Depression will miraculously disappear if you don't have time for it=)


Originally Posted by carolinephillips (Post 10989931)
BUT, when you are depressed you cannot easily find the motivation to "be busy". That is like saying to someone "snap out of it".

Quite right, Caroline. Also, being very busy can lead to stress, anxiety and depression.

eddie007 Nov 13th 2013 10:31 am

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by bitzenpces (Post 10984667)
Crikey, paulry, are you BE's resident closet scientologist?:ohmy::blink::eek:

Great minds eh?

paulry Nov 13th 2013 1:10 pm

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Originally Posted by eddie007 (Post 10990184)
Great minds eh?

:lol:

paulry Nov 20th 2013 6:59 am

Re: Depression / anxiety
 
This lady advocates shifting the focus in mental health care from symptom control to prevention and recovery. Here is her story.


The orthomolecular concept makes sense. A depressed brain needs to "refuel" its energy, stabilize its enzymes, balance its neurotransmitters and restore its capabilities. As a sick brain heals, symptoms resolve. The restored brain no longer misfires; bad moods pass; life looks brighter. A bipolar brain also needs to control its tendency to get overexcited. Fortunately, GABA, the brain's inhibitory neurotransmitter, taken as a supplement, calmed me right away. I added TMG (trimethylglycine) and l-taurine and the trace minerals magnesium, zinc and manganese. They worked! With Dr. Slagle's book as a professional guide, I slowly tested the B vitamins 1, 2, 5, 6 and 12, vitamin D and the antioxidant vitamins C and E. Guided by other books and two doctors, I am taking mitochondrial supplements l-carnitine with ribose and co-enzyme Q-10 and the trace minerals chromium and selenium.
Free ebook: "The way up from down" by Dr. Priscilla Slagle, MD

paulry Nov 27th 2013 7:14 am

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Over dosed is so very sad and it also makes me feel angry. I wonder if the poor woman has been given the chance to try orthomolecular, mindfulness and other treatments besides the chemical one?

http://www.news.com.au/national/brea...-1226769555023

paulry Dec 4th 2013 1:18 pm

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http://www.doctoryourself.com/

TheCreature Dec 4th 2013 1:55 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by RedDragon2008 (Post 10941911)
versus snake oil

;)

Lots of medical research going on into 'snake oil'* at the moment. Big things hoped for.













*ok, its snake venom really.


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