Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11023550)

I tried - ended up rolling in laughter when I got to point 2 - sorry that is just wrong. If the information isn't reliable and believable on a single point - how can you trust any more of what is said.

I found it very hard to believe that Vit C cures polio, tetanus and HIV, but the second point was a plant based diet and I know that was nonsense!

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 11023561)

Snake oil contained a large amount of VIt C....allegedly :D

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11023575)

On the subject of snake oil this is quite visual - http://www.informationisbeautiful.ne...l-supplements/

As expressed by Sally, Vit D does have scientific benefits for depression, although not sure why it features as both promising and slight. Surprisingly, B3 is not given as beneficial for mental health issues when filtered on scientific results, mental health and vitamins

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 11023513)

So vitamins are a cure all and you dont need any medical credentials to suggest taking large doses? Is that basically the gist?

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 11023544)

This is complete nonsense.....how about posting some reliable evidence instead of your usual anti psychiatry/drug company paranoia?

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 11023622)

Crikey, you lot all together are not a pretty sight. :blink:

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11023623)

Did you find the answer?

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 11023625)

What answer is that?

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11023632)

I deleted my post because I took it you were avoiding the question. I asked about Niacin / B3 toxicity twice now. I also asked since you advocate it in large doses, what dose you consider safe, and if there are any contraindications, and if it is safe for someone sitting at home to follow your advice?

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 11023635)

Why would you delete a post and then ask me the answer to the question posed in it? That's a little strange. All these deletes and edits make you look a bit unstable - especially for a mod.

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 11022744)

Great, now we're getting somewhere. Which videos did you find fake and which harmful at high doses vitamin was I advocating?

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11022806)

The vitamins was niacin / B3 and I thought Vitamin A and B6 but I've been back and for a bit and can only find the reference to B3. The early videos would have been the ones I watched, and they are the majority of the ones now missing - it says the youtube account has been closed. There's a few around the 400 mark that also don't sound nice and it puts me personally off all of them

I am a traditionalist when it comes to the subject, because that is what works for me - and that's not to say popping pills. I believe diet, routine, exercise and talking are the best methods. Above all people want to be listened to - you can't have a discussion with a youtube link - and linking out to websites don't work for me

There are other bits I find disturbing - the curing of so many ailments by vitamins just seems so unbelievable. There are people following the best diets in the world that have been struck with terrible illnesses - if vitamins are the cure, then why are they not preventative. In other cases it seems to prey on peoples vulnerabilities, and the possible benefits may be placebo effects only

Apologies if this is fragmented - long night

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11023508)

You didn't answer the question on the toxicity on B3 which you have definitely recommended in large doses - what levels do you deem safe for someone reading this at home to take - and what would be the contraindications? What advise would you give to someone reading this and going and ordering megadoses of A, B3, B6, D, etc?

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 11023635)

Why would you delete a post and then ask me the answer to the question posed in it? That's a little strange. All these deletes and edits make you look a bit unstable - especially for a mod.

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11023639)

There we go

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11023640)

Thanks for that - I must admit to being a little low recently but don't think I've been called unstable - mod or otherwise

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 11023645)

Cool. First we can start with you properly answering the question at the top that I asked you. Your response to it was both unsatisfactory and vague.