common link to the riots
Aug 10th 2011 | 12:14 pm
#122
Auntie Fa
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 7,344
From: Seattle
Re: common link to the riots
My sister is a single parent and I don't hear of any of my nieces looting.
Aug 10th 2011 | 12:45 pm
#128
has lost The Game
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 8,735
From: Chippendale, Sydney
Re: common link to the riots
This post is not intended as a Australia v UK one, although I'm sure many on here will make it so (do what you gotta do haters). Sadly, these riots are a damning indictment of what UK society has become. Too many years of PC government, soft policing, a too liberal judicary, the endless welfare state, multiculturalism, non-integration, the breakdown of the family unit, the lack of respect from a lot of the population, the fact that a career in the UK now requires a degree, the destruction of the working-class. This has bred a generation with no values, no father figures or role models, a dependence on welfare, a lack of respect for the institutions of state, a belief that nothing has to be worked for, nothing to work towards, no ambition, 'what's the point?', a total under-class.
In other words a f**ked up generation.
It's a mess.
In other words a f**ked up generation.
It's a mess.
I agree with some of the issues in this post, but not all. I sadly think that the system of inclusion where 'everyone can be a winner' needs to stop. It may well be warm and fluffy, but it teaches kids the wrong thing IMHO.
Kids at school need to realise that life is hard, and that they will need to work to achieve things - it isn't all handed to them on a plate. All this "You can be whatever you want" BS ends up filling their heads with unrealistic nonsense.
The number of kids that I used to teach that genuinely, really and honestly thought they were going to go on and become premiership footballers was ridiculous. Yet they would sit through lessons flicking through magazines of sports cars deciding which ones they were going to buy. I wonder what they are doing now...
It must come as a very rude shock when they leave school with nothing, and discover that they have no skills and then face a life of handouts.
Though all this said, Channel 9 were reporting this morning that apparently one of the first cases of looting dealt with was a primary school teacher.
WTF?
S
Aug 10th 2011 | 12:49 pm
#129
Possum. Amiculum. Latrina
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,427
From: Footloose
Re: common link to the riots
I agree with some of the issues in this post, but not all. I sadly think that the system of inclusion where 'everyone can be a winner' needs to stop. It may well be warm and fluffy, but it teaches kids the wrong thing IMHO.
Kids at school need to realise that life is hard, and that they will need to work to achieve things - it isn't all handed to them on a plate. All this "You can be whatever you want" BS ends up filling their heads with unrealistic nonsense.
The number of kids that I used to teach that genuinely, really and honestly thought they were going to go on and become premiership footballers was ridiculous. Yet they would sit through lessons flicking through magazines of sports cars deciding which ones they were going to buy. I wonder what they are doing now...
It must come as a very rude shock when they leave school with nothing, and discover that they have no skills and then face a life of handouts.
Though all this said, Channel 9 were reporting this morning that apparently one of the first cases of looting dealt with was a primary school teacher.
WTF?
S
Kids at school need to realise that life is hard, and that they will need to work to achieve things - it isn't all handed to them on a plate. All this "You can be whatever you want" BS ends up filling their heads with unrealistic nonsense.
The number of kids that I used to teach that genuinely, really and honestly thought they were going to go on and become premiership footballers was ridiculous. Yet they would sit through lessons flicking through magazines of sports cars deciding which ones they were going to buy. I wonder what they are doing now...
It must come as a very rude shock when they leave school with nothing, and discover that they have no skills and then face a life of handouts.
Though all this said, Channel 9 were reporting this morning that apparently one of the first cases of looting dealt with was a primary school teacher.
WTF?
S
Aug 10th 2011 | 12:53 pm
#130
has lost The Game
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 8,735
From: Chippendale, Sydney
Re: common link to the riots
Maybe it was - I have searched, and can't find anything on it, and I don't really trust the efficacy of the journalism on the Today show.
In any case, if it's true, I hope they lose their job. They can have no moral authority to set an example to kids in school with that sort of conviction...
S
Aug 10th 2011 | 12:55 pm
#131
Banned
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 9,910
From: The REAL Utopia.
Re: common link to the riots
At sports days at our kids school basically just about everyone gets a 'Well done for taking part' ribbon. 
I agree with some of the issues in this post, but not all. I sadly think that the system of inclusion where 'everyone can be a winner' needs to stop. It may well be warm and fluffy, but it teaches kids the wrong thing IMHO.
Kids at school need to realise that life is hard, and that they will need to work to achieve things - it isn't all handed to them on a plate. All this "You can be whatever you want" BS ends up filling their heads with unrealistic nonsense.
S
Kids at school need to realise that life is hard, and that they will need to work to achieve things - it isn't all handed to them on a plate. All this "You can be whatever you want" BS ends up filling their heads with unrealistic nonsense.
S
Aug 10th 2011 | 12:57 pm
#132
Crazy Cat Lady
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 65,493
Re: common link to the riots
I agree with some of the issues in this post, but not all. I sadly think that the system of inclusion where 'everyone can be a winner' needs to stop. It may well be warm and fluffy, but it teaches kids the wrong thing IMHO.
Kids at school need to realise that life is hard, and that they will need to work to achieve things - it isn't all handed to them on a plate. All this "You can be whatever you want" BS ends up filling their heads with unrealistic nonsense.
Kids at school need to realise that life is hard, and that they will need to work to achieve things - it isn't all handed to them on a plate. All this "You can be whatever you want" BS ends up filling their heads with unrealistic nonsense.
Aug 10th 2011 | 1:05 pm
#134
your fair weather friend!
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,018
Re: common link to the riots
Not all kids are sporty. If you ram it down their throats that they're crap they'll lose interest.
I don't think the current malaise has anything to do with kids being molly coddled at all. I think it's the opposite, total lack of self esteem from having shit parents, being branded as scum by the older generation, and of course having not much of a future to look forward to.
I'm not excusing any of the actions of the thugs etc, just that I think a lot of the knee jerk bumpf people are spouting (lock 'em up, shoot 'em, take away their council house, make 'em do national service) is just harking back to a rose tinted bygone era.......
Aug 10th 2011 | 1:07 pm
#135
Social Grenade Thrower
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,625
From: South Coast, NSW
Re: common link to the riots
That is completely different, the whole point of that is to be non exclusive and to promote participation regardless of finish position. Its the taking part that counts, surely thats a good thing???
