common link to the riots
Aug 10th 2011 | 1:08 pm
#136
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So thick!
Aug 10th 2011 | 1:31 pm
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Aug 10th 2011 | 1:34 pm
#140
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Aug 10th 2011 | 1:42 pm
#141
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Re: common link to the riots
If they themselves do not take the law seriously why should anyone be shocked when the under classes don't?
Aug 10th 2011 | 1:43 pm
#142
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Re: common link to the riots
All seems a bit mad.
Aug 10th 2011 | 4:41 pm
#143
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Re: common link to the riots
I don't think the current malaise has anything to do with kids being molly coddled at all. I think it's the opposite, total lack of self esteem from having shit parents, being branded as scum by the older generation, and of course having not much of a future to look forward to.
I'm not excusing any of the actions of the thugs etc, just that I think a lot of the knee jerk bumpf people are spouting (lock 'em up, shoot 'em, take away their council house, make 'em do national service) is just harking back to a rose tinted bygone era.......
I'm not excusing any of the actions of the thugs etc, just that I think a lot of the knee jerk bumpf people are spouting (lock 'em up, shoot 'em, take away their council house, make 'em do national service) is just harking back to a rose tinted bygone era.......
Aug 10th 2011 | 4:49 pm
#144
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Re: common link to the riots
I see what you are saying to a point but if you come 4th your aren't crap. When I did sportsdays at school back in the dark ages if we didn't win or come 2nd or 3rd we didn't get a special ribbon and to be honest it didn't cause any long term trauma. The parents in our group at the sportsday thought the 'participation ribbons' were just PC nonsense designed so no little princesses were upset by not winning. I already tell our kids it isnt about winning, I really don't need the school patronising them.
I have absolutely no sympathy for any of the thugs involved in the riots, I feel sorry for them if they come from broken families or had a shit upbringing but I know people from that sort of background and they dont riot and steal.
I have absolutely no sympathy for any of the thugs involved in the riots, I feel sorry for them if they come from broken families or had a shit upbringing but I know people from that sort of background and they dont riot and steal.
TBH Chris, why not?
Not all kids are sporty. If you ram it down their throats that they're crap they'll lose interest.
I don't think the current malaise has anything to do with kids being molly coddled at all. I think it's the opposite, total lack of self esteem from having shit parents, being branded as scum by the older generation, and of course having not much of a future to look forward to.
I'm not excusing any of the actions of the thugs etc, just that I think a lot of the knee jerk bumpf people are spouting (lock 'em up, shoot 'em, take away their council house, make 'em do national service) is just harking back to a rose tinted bygone era.......
Not all kids are sporty. If you ram it down their throats that they're crap they'll lose interest.
I don't think the current malaise has anything to do with kids being molly coddled at all. I think it's the opposite, total lack of self esteem from having shit parents, being branded as scum by the older generation, and of course having not much of a future to look forward to.
I'm not excusing any of the actions of the thugs etc, just that I think a lot of the knee jerk bumpf people are spouting (lock 'em up, shoot 'em, take away their council house, make 'em do national service) is just harking back to a rose tinted bygone era.......
Aug 10th 2011 | 5:37 pm
#145
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Re: common link to the riots
Maybe it was - I have searched, and can't find anything on it, and I don't really trust the efficacy of the journalism on the Today show.
In any case, if it's true, I hope they lose their job. They can have no moral authority to set an example to kids in school with that sort of conviction...
S
In any case, if it's true, I hope they lose their job. They can have no moral authority to set an example to kids in school with that sort of conviction...
S
Aug 15th 2011 | 1:14 pm
#146
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Re: common link to the riots
This post is not intended as a Australia v UK one, although I'm sure many on here will make it so (do what you gotta do haters). Sadly, these riots are a damning indictment of what UK society has become. Too many years of PC government, soft policing, a too liberal judicary, the endless welfare state, multiculturalism, non-integration, the breakdown of the family unit, the lack of respect from a lot of the population, the fact that a career in the UK now requires a degree, the destruction of the working-class. This has bred a generation with no values, no father figures or role models, a dependence on welfare, a lack of respect for the institutions of state, a belief that nothing has to be worked for, nothing to work towards, no ambition, 'what's the point?', a total under-class.
In other words a f**ked up generation.
It's a mess.
In other words a f**ked up generation.
It's a mess.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-collapse.html
Aug 15th 2011 | 1:25 pm
#147
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Aug 15th 2011 | 1:27 pm
#148
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Re: common link to the riots
Looks like your PM, David Cameron, the guy who has to sort this out, agrees with me:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-collapse.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-collapse.html
Impressive rhetoric. But can it translate into workable policies. And does the country have the money it needs to make it happen?
S
Aug 15th 2011 | 1:32 pm
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Re: common link to the riots
Looks like your PM, David Cameron, the guy who has to sort this out, agrees with me:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-collapse.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-collapse.html
